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uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by ehsankia »

apozem wrote: post #125

I really, really wish Apple would update Safari for uBlock Origin. I’m about to publish a Safari extension (a NoScript equivalent) and the content blocking APIs are so limited. iOS is even worse than the Mac, too. On iOS AFAIK you can’t even reload the page for the user.

The irony is that this is the model the new Chrome API was going towards, and Apple has been using it forever, but when Google goes to do it, everyone has tinfoil theories about how Google is specifically doing it to kill ad-block extensions, but when Apple does it, very few people complained.

Realistically, it's probably more security and battery efficient. I doubt they'll undo it.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by d110af5ccf »

nathcd wrote: post #258
d110af5ccf wrote: post #255

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That comment: > umatrix is built into ublock origin now, just enable advanced mode in ublock. I have advanced mode enabled and don't see anything remotely resembling the uMatrix source vs type grid. There's a couple overly cryptic { allow block other } columns with rows corresponding to the source and that's it as far as I can tell. No { css image frame etc } columns in my UI.

On the uBO popup, if you click "More" on the bottom left a few times, you eventually get a uMatrix-ish grid on the left side of the popup. (Not 100% sure if that's what you're looking for.) I agree with other commenters though that I don't really understand the uBO grid and found the uMatrix grid much more immediately accessible.

Yeah that's the grid I was referring to. It isn't the same as the detailed 2D breakdown that uMatrix gives you. Instead it simply has a blanket { green grey red } for each source.

(Also I can never seem to remember precisely what each unlabeled colored box does. I never have that problem with uMatrix.)

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by ehsankia »

timbit42 wrote: post #178
clircle wrote: post #42

This is technical and interesting, but can anyone tell the difference between web browsing with FF/uBo and Chrome/uBo? I personally cannot, other than that the fonts render a bit differently. Webpages load fast and no ads get through in both cases.

The first chart in the article explains the difference. It's not so much about being able to tell the difference, but how much it is protecting you in the background.

To be fair the only difference there seems to be from a future RC release of uBO that isn't even out yet, and also that has to do more with third-party tracking cookies more so than ad-blocking, so most users probably wouldn't notice it. It's not about speed, it's about the probability of detecting these CNAME cloaked tracking.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by yborg »

OJFord wrote: post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

nuTensor would be a lot more accessible if it were a signed extension. Having to sideload it is a non-starter for most people.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by skrowl »

apozem wrote: post #125

I really, really wish Apple would update Safari for uBlock Origin. I’m about to publish a Safari extension (a NoScript equivalent) and the content blocking APIs are so limited. iOS is even worse than the Mac, too. On iOS AFAIK you can’t even reload the page for the user.

Keep in mind that on iOS you have no browser options AT ALL. You get Safari or skinned Safari.

Per the Apple app store rules, no one may publish a browser or javascript engine and any app that browses the web MUST use safari's webkit.

This is by design so that web feels very bad on iOS compared to native apps, so you'll keep using native apps and Apple will get their 30% of whatever you buy in app.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by skrowl »

temp0826 wrote: post #26
godelski wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FF Mobile has uBlock

Firefox on iOS does not support extensions, fwiw

That's because it's not real firefox. Apple doesn't allow real firefox / chrome / etc and all apps that browse web must use safari's webkit.

Keep that in mind next time you go to buy a phone!

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by smabie »

mentos wrote: post #233
nwmcsween wrote: post #137

Just reinstalled Firefox due to this info

Yea not sure if anyone on the Firefox team is reading but I have not had any reason to consider Firefox until reading this thread. If Firefox made their browser the best at ad-blocking instead of performance (which also might go hand in hand) I would consider using it again.

Is Firefox worse than Chrome in anyway? Performance seems on par and it has a truly transformative app that iirc is unavailable in chrome: treetabs.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

skrowl wrote: post #345
apozem wrote: post #125

I really, really wish Apple would update Safari for uBlock Origin. I’m about to publish a Safari extension (a NoScript equivalent) and the content blocking APIs are so limited. iOS is even worse than the Mac, too. On iOS AFAIK you can’t even reload the page for the user.

Keep in mind that on iOS you have no browser options AT ALL. You get Safari or skinned Safari. Per the Apple app store rules, no one may publish a browser or javascript engine and any app that browses the web MUST use safari's webkit. This is by design so that web feels very bad on iOS compared to native apps, so you'll keep using native apps and Apple will get their 30% of whatever you buy in app.

I agree.

Recently Safari on iOS has changed how the back button works so pressing back now takes me to the top of the previous page rather than the location I was at before I linked away.

More recently Firefox on iOS also behaves this way.

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