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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by rconti »

gumby wrote: post #202

I don't understand the port fetish. I admit my mac use case doesn't involve plugging much of anything into my machine, but Type C is pretty ubiquitous by now.

I just spent a week getting an Ethernet adapter for my 13" MBP.

It hit me -- hey, solve this latency issue by using wired ethernet. Then I remembered, HEY, I already HAVE an adapter. Chained my apple-multi-port-adapter to my apple usb-to-ethernet adapter. Wait, why are things worse than WiFi? Oh, right, USB type A, probably USB2.0 or whatever. Limited to 93Mbps.

Go to apple store online, order Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter. I've made the mistake of buying a USB-C dock instead of a Thunderbolt dock, won't make that mistake again!

It arrives, it's Thunderbolt 2 so it can't plug into my machine.

Order another one, this time USB-C.

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Post by pembrook »

jagger27 wrote: post #308
pembrook wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, I much prefer the 2X smaller trackpad of the last generation. At max sensitivity in MacOS you could move so much faster and with less strain on the wrist. It’s too bad they never adjusted MacOS to compensate for the new massive trackpad, max sensitivity should be higher. It’s like the right hand never told the left what it was doing. But not surprising, considering Apple’s entire organization is built around…

This seems like something BetterTouchTool could address.

Unfortunately not, the sensitivity increases don't work like they used to. You can also marginally increase the sensitivity in terminal directly, but again, not enough to compensate for the 2X bigger trackpad.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by reaperducer »

gumby wrote: post #201
toomanybeersies wrote: post #164

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I think HN is a bit unfairly biased against the touchbar, since it serves almost zero purpose for programming work. However, it's quite handy when doing multimedia work with applications that integrate with the touchbar (Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, Photoshop)

It's for people who look at the keyboard when they type. I think it would be a godsend for the low end machines. Instead they put it on the high end machines and left it off the entry level ones -- completely backwards. I personally never used the F keys for anything so don't really care if they are there or not (I use them just for brightness and mute) but the Touch Bar was too sensitive. And while I initially thoug…

It's for people who look at the keyboard when they type.

That's a pretty narrow view.

I've been a touch typer for many decades now (had to pass a minimum WPM score on an IBM Selectric to get my journalism degree), and I find the touchbar quite useful.

The problem is that you have to customize it. And the tools Apple supplies are inadequate.

In my case, I have a bunch of "keys" on the touchbar that trigger various macros.

Building a major change for one small set of users ("people who look at the keyboard") isn't how Apple does things.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by rconti »

volta87 wrote: post #321

If this happens I might replace my macbook air mid 2012. Magsafe, no touchbar, hopefully 14'' with 32GB of RAM and M1X. Also, I hope a decent webcam, and ability to support at least 2 external displays..

The new machines are great. I used a 2011 Air forever, having a high-DPI air was on my list, so when the new ones dropped, I ordered an i7 in March... which I recently sold on Swappa since I had to upgrade to an M1 :)

But of course, no magsafe, and only 16GB of RAM, so if it's your daily workhorse I can see waiting for the 14" MBP with more RAM and beefier chips.

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Post by dtwest »

ardy42 wrote: post #320
wlesieutre wrote: post #252

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My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Could this be talking about an iPhone 12 style magsafe with a large pad? Not sure how that would work, you'd have to set your computer on top of it to have enough contact…

> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually da…

I love the design of the MagSafe chargers, you point out a great advantage of them, but sadly they aren't durable. And like the parent comment said, they are expensive. I'm on my second for my current laptop and it's frayed on the end so I'm soon to be on my third. Hopefully a next iteration of MagSafe takes this issue more seriously.

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Post by duluca »

ravenstine wrote: post #292
BugsJustFindMe wrote: post #266

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> MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick No law of physics requires a cable with a magnet on one end to not be detachable from the brick on the other end. So while I too do not lament that the cable is no longer affixed to the bricks, I would like Apple to make a magsafe cable that is just not attached that is also not shitty (all those third party USBC at…

Interesting you say that because I've been using a 3rd party USB-C to Magsafe connector to charge my Macbook and it works great. The magnet is even stronger than the OEM ones. Never had a problem with it.

Can you share the link for the cable? Would love to check it out.

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Post by hcurtiss »

bestinterest wrote: post #274

I hope they also allow at least two displays to be connected instead of the one display limitation on the latest MacBooks

I presently have my 2020 MBA connected to two QHD displays. I couldn't get it to work with a single dock cable, but I connect the dock (which has lots of other peripherals) and one display direct to the second USB-C.

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Post by massysett »

dtwest wrote: post #345
ardy42 wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually da…

I love the design of the MagSafe chargers, you point out a great advantage of them, but sadly they aren't durable. And like the parent comment said, they are expensive. I'm on my second for my current laptop and it's frayed on the end so I'm soon to be on my third. Hopefully a next iteration of MagSafe takes this issue more seriously.

Shore it up by wrapping electrical tape around it. To be stylish, find some white electrical tape.

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Post by kube-system »

sneak wrote: post #309
kube-system wrote: post #299

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> I doubt any Macbook Pro will ever have an M1. I typed this comment with one :)

Oh, I forgot entirely about the air-with-a-fan placeholder they launched already. I'm curious: why did you buy it?

Over the Air? I like to do a lot of work away from an outlet and occasionally outdoors. I wanted the larger battery and brighter screen.
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