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Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Funny because I would consider you brainwashed! Any widespread censorship is enough to raise serious concerns for me.

You must be a big supporter of BLM then, no better censorship then a cop shooting you in the back while you're unarmed on your own property.

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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You'd have a valid point here if all people were 100% rational actors with perfect knowledge and agency. Unfortunately, they aren't.

> Unfortunately, they aren't. Yet they are allowed to drive cars, fly planes, raise children, buy guns and vote but somehow cannot decide for themselves what’s good or bad, and need a higher moral entity like Facebook to babysit them. I find this a weak argument.

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Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Are we really so stupid that we cannot see through this kind of thing and need to actively censor it to have civilized society continue to function? When do we just give up on democracy completely?

https://graymirror.substack.com/p/the-great-coup-of-2021

>Once power loses its mask, once censoring dissent because it makes a mockery of the government is not just what power is doing, but actually what power says it’s doing, we enter a new stage of history—because serving this power is openly humiliating to the servant. Or at least, to any servant of intelligence, wisdom, conscience and character.

>At this stage, therefore, power is actively recruiting its own counter-elite. There is only one way to produce a regime change that sticks: a circulation of the elites. Therefore, we have taken a genuine step toward history. The gigantic gear has moved one click.

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Yes, the question really is are they liable for the violence that's produced through their algorithms?

Or you know, as US based companies with large US citizen workforces and executives, they possibly have some actual strong opinions about a despotic regime taking over their country.

That would've been plausible until before last Wednesday. But, considering the only rational explanation for those events seems a plan to apply the provisions of the Insurrection Act to prevent the act of formal election, waiting until after the failure of such plan seems opportunistic and not supportive of your interpretation.

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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It is well known that an educated, free people are necessary for the functioning of democracy. It's part of the justification for the 1st Amendment. We have new technologies which are being leveraged to intentionally misinform people, in a society that has degraded public education and raised the cost of higher education to levels prohibitive for the majority of the population, and as a result, the society (as a whol…

The US is one of the most educated countries in the world! Only Korea and Canada are materially ahead of us in college attainment: https://www.ajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/with... We’re way ahead of Germany or Italy. The America that sent a man to the moon had around 5% of people with a college degree.

This is not a very meaningful measure, given that the standards of a "college education" today are way lower than even a high-school education in e.g. the 19th century. Anti-intellectualism is not a new development or a result of the Internet; it has been somewhat common for quite some time, even among the self-proclaimed intellectual elite.

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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Funny because I would consider you brainwashed! Any widespread censorship is enough to raise serious concerns for me.

You must be a big supporter of BLM then, no better censorship then a cop shooting you in the back while you're unarmed on your own property.

I support the right for both sides to speak out. What I don't support is endorsing one side, and then demonizing the other. Objectively, more police and citizens were killed in BLM riots. Tens of active shooter situations, vehicles used as weapons, billions in property damage. Storming the capitol is also bad, but demonizing it more so is asking for extremist trouble.

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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They are just appeasing the Democrats before they take control and break them up. Big Tech has had no issue offering services to third world dictatorships but when Americans drink the same koolaid, suddenly it's a pressing issue! Just to be clear, I am not blaming them, I am just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Or it was because of a literal coup attempt last week.

It's weird that Americans became so ineffective when COVID came and they had to coup from home.

Re: Facebook Says It Is Removing All Content Mentioning 'Stop the Steal'

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> Because there's a clear government-enforced bias. Obvious lie. The current government is controlled by the group pushing the "stop the steal" propaganda. No reasonable person would believe Trump's own government is compelling Facebook to remove it. > Can you imagine the shitshow if they banned, let's say, black people? Sure... And what, pray tell, does that have to do with removing _posts_ containing calls to viole…

Curious what would be your take if they banned people based on color. Is it still okay for a private company to set any rules?

Why do you keep raising hypotheticals which have nothing to do with reality? Once again, TFA is about removing _posts_, not people.

Nevertheless, I'll indulge you: While businesses in the USA generally reserve the right to refuse to do business with whomever they please, Federal law (under the Civil Rights Act of 1964) prohibits discrimination in public businesses made on the basis of race, color, religion, or national origin. Many states also have their own laws further limiting discrimination, though I'm not personally that aware of how these have been tested in regard to online services serving many states/countries.

Beyond what's required under law, companies can have whatever policies they wish (but will have to deal with public outrage for implementing policies as disgusting as the one given in your example).

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