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ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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It is pretty nuts that a single physical location can bring down a state's worth of 911, and cellular. It is either institutional incompetence, or malice, or laziness.

> institutional incompetence, or malice, or laziness. AT&T in TN is an epic example of all 3 and then some. The most recent unbelievably stupid thing I've personally observed was the construction of 15 miles of new fiber on county power poles; right beside a Verizon fiber line that had been there for a decade. They put no slack loops in theirs, VZW's run has many. that line went up this year, and has been torn down a…

I can't speak for the telco side of the business, but I do know that AT&T leadership has been telling their enterprise IT side of the business to throw out many prior requirements to built HA into things, and to reduce the portion of systems set aside to handle unplanned events. One of the justifications has been that such planning and built-in headroom is virtually never used.

They are rapidly shutting down most of their enterprise IT data centers and the planning was done without consulting with their system architects about things like site paring for EBR and data replication, network coverage, etc.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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I saw a bunch of headlines recently that said the FBI had decrypted one of the popular secure messaging apps (telegram or signal maybe?), which, bizarrely enough, fits my narrative perfectly. Though I saw other headlines stating that was incorrect reporting.

You probably saw the headlines about Cellebrite claiming to have "signal decryption" capabilities, which they did, provided they had the device in hand and unlocked https://signal.org/blog/cellebrite-and-clickbait/

Woah! They can decrypt it when it’s decrypted!! News!

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Considering the FBI recently foiled a plot by a group who was planning to "take out" parts of the energy grid, it seems likely from my experience that this is another set of people executing a similar plan targeting telecoms. I imagine there is a high probability of more incidents like this happening between now and the inauguration, meant to target various infrastructure and "big government" components throughout th…

> This attack screams anti-government militia with it's technique What makes you think this? Vehicle bombs have been used by Islamic bombers, IRA bombers. Doesn’t seem that unique to me.

He clearly has a nice narrative, stop trying to spoil it for him by popping his balloons

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Considering the FBI recently foiled a plot by a group who was planning to "take out" parts of the energy grid, it seems likely from my experience that this is another set of people executing a similar plan targeting telecoms. I imagine there is a high probability of more incidents like this happening between now and the inauguration, meant to target various infrastructure and "big government" components throughout th…

You’ve been watching too much Netflix over the holiday.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Neural net synth would be even easier to trace. It’s quite hard to set up an aws account via untraceable currency and an untraceable phone. I did it when I was 25 or so, and it took about three weeks of planning and execution just to get the cards and phone. Given the sophistication of the attack, I wouldn’t say it’s impossible they have neural net experience. But as someone who spent a good chunk of time trying to g…

Are you a bot? Because your profile makes me think you're a bot. I mean no disrespect.

Some say I am, but I like to think there's a little bot in all of us.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Destroying property for political reasons is still terrorism (like blowing up a parking lot of SUVs).

Destroying property for political reasons is not terrorism. You have to incite terror, if civilians are not scared then it isn't terrorism it is vandalism.

Imagine having to drink coffee. Its pretty terrifying, especially for a Brit.

More seriously - the people who own that property were civilians and probably scared. In usa terrorism is defined currently as "premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents". (Title 22 Chapter 38 U.S. Code § 2656f)

The boston tea party was premeditated, politically motivated, the tea was not military (so non combatant) and it was done by a subnational group. Seems to fit to me.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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While I'm only speculating, it could be quite possible that whoever may have wished to damage or destroy the AT&T building, seriously underestimated what these kind of buildings can take (essentially being disguised bunkers). This certainly wasn't a small explosion, from the looks of it. But taking out a bunker .. unless you have access to weapons specially build for that purpose, good luck. That AT&T still went down…

Facilities don't really keep that large of an inventory of fuel on site. Usually once they start running they have to call for fuel immediately and be regularly refueled until power is restored. They don't have a week of fuel or anything like that. I don't see why natural gas is such a bad backup for utility electric. It doesn't share fate with the electric grid and it's buried. Seems pretty good.

How long will the gas grid keep working without electricity? Sure, the pressure is likely maintained from a reservoir, but many of the control systems likely depend on electricity, and I could imagine some being fail-safe (solenoids holding valves open and shutting if power fails).

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Is the FirstNet network only run by AT&T or by other providers as well?

AT&T only. But unclear if that would be effected, that was a wireline C.O., not sure if they also had their wireless switching there, sometimes the wireless and wireline are in different buildings.

FirstNet went down but they brought up a SatCOW to re-enable it in the area immediately around the bombing. That CO hosted lots of PSAP, ESInet and FirstNet gear. Other SatCOWs are being brought online in the area.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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Generally speaking the definitions of terrorism preclude state actors from being included (kind of a cop out, but they literally have carve-outs for the state). See the US legal definition of terrorism: premeditated, politically motivated violence perpetrated against noncombatant targets by subnational groups or clandestine agents Title 22 Chapter 38 U.S. Code § 2656f Generally speaking, wartime actions by one state…

Isn’t the part that makes it less like terrorism that you ‘declare war’ on a different nation first? That’s why pearl harbor is seen more like terrorism, and the rest of the war more like war.

The rules that apply to countries is different than those that apply to non countries. Declaring war doesn't change much. Many terrorist groups declare war before blowing stuff up, it doesn't let them off the hook.

Re: ATT services down due to bombing in Nashville

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They Bombed a major network switching and server hub for att

AT&T snags FBI business from Verizon with $92M FirstNet contract just days ago

FirstNet system is a unified communication platform to connect all levels of government and collect information during times of crisis.

Was created in 2012 after the Boston bombing.

Government agencies all are going to be linked through this system top to bottom.

This is basically a much faster private parallel internet that the public wont have access to.

very dangerous.

Who ever did this may be pointing this out

https://www.fiercewireless.com/operators/at-t-snags-fbi-busi...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Responder_Network_Author...

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