Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify • Hacker News Board

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by isochronous » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:07 PM UTC

eitland wrote: post #205

reaperducer wrote: post #31

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It keeps playing a song called "My Likes" Meanwhile, here in Siri Land... Me: Hey, Siri, add "tomatoes" to my Groceries list. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapredu…

I can't understand why I should talk to any of my devices as long as they are as idiotic as they are now and like you describe above doesn't have the slightest idea about how to handle context. That said Siri feels at least 100 times smarter than Google assistant to me, the below are actual (if somewhat anonymized) examples: - Google suggestions when I look at the phone at 5am in the morning: "text random friend of a…

Google is terrific at answering random questions compared to Siri, though. And I use my Alexa products for shopping lists. Not too long ago they added a feature where it tries to figure out what section of the grocery store things are in, and then it groups items on your shopping list into those grocery store sections. It's pretty nice and a simple "alexa, add to my shopping list" is pretty bulletproof.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by ajhurliman » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:19 PM UTC

cwkoss wrote: post #165

princevegeta89 wrote: post #151

"OK Google" is the biggest problem I find with Google Home and Google Assistant so far. Things like "Alexa" and "Siri" are short and seem more practical. When I say "Ok Google", I feel like doing a mouth-exercise. And multiply this extra effort over the number of times you need to apply it in a single session. It is a pain. Why didn't Google ever change it?!

Privacy. Alexa and Siri get triggered unintentionally very frequently in normal conversation.

I'm not sure you understand their business model if you think they made the decision based off of privacy.

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Post by toyg » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:19 PM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #31

renewiltord wrote: post #5

My fucking Google Home can't even figure out how to play the auto playlist "My Likes" on YouTube Music. Previously, I could say "Play my Thumbs Up" and it could do so on Google Play Music. It keeps playing a song called "My Likes". Jesus fucking Christ, Google. If I say "Play my My Likes playlist" something random happens. Do these guys even use their product? I'm just glad this album didn't come out before the force…

It keeps playing a song called "My Likes" Meanwhile, here in Siri Land... Me: Hey, Siri, add "tomatoes" to my Groceries list. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapredu…

Me: Hey Siri, add tomatoes and grapes to the shopping list in Pap-

Siri: I couldn’t find a shopping list, do you want me to create one?

Me: no. Hey Siri, add tomatoes and grap-

Siri: you have to select which app you want to continue Sorry, Paprika has not implemented this function yet.

Me: Hey Siri, addtomatoesandgrapestotheshoppinglistinPaprika

Siri: ok, I’ve added “tomatoesandgrapes” to the shopping list in Paprika 3

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by TAForObvReasons » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:26 PM UTC

kwijibob wrote: post #333

pradn wrote: post #157

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As a Google employee, I really don't want to be saying "Ok, Google" in my home all the time. It's totally possible for me to go to work in a subway that has Google ads, waste time on my Pixel, work at the Google office for eight hours, waste time on my Pixel, walk past the same ads on the way home, watch YouTube videos and do Google searches about random topics, and ask Google to set an alarm before I go to sleep. It…

"Ok, Google" makes everyone hate saying the word "Google". It is now linked to the emotions of frustration and anger forever.

Considering Amazon uses "Alexa" and Apple uses "Siri" and Microsoft uses "Cortana", it is strange that Google opted not to pick an alternative name

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Post by erikerikson » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:26 PM UTC

deaddodo wrote: post #257

isaacimagine wrote: post #119

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Same. It's been getting less smart over time.

This is the same way I feel about Google Maps. Especially with the new streamlined/cards UI. Everything is objectively worse and I can't even force it to act like it used to. Actual, useful functionality has just been lopped off.

And Google Search.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by jjulius » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:26 PM UTC

dredmorbius wrote: post #327

jjulius wrote: post #79

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Instead of "C:\ del .mp3", it should be "del C:\ .mp3". Edit: lol, I didn't know that we could format text with asterisks on HN. There should be an asterisk before each ".mp3", but as you can see, if I put them in it just italicizes the text in between them.

Two leading spaces is verbatim (code/literal) text: C:\ del *.mp3 Should be: del C:\ *.mp3 https://news.ycombinator.com/formatdoc

Cheers to you and sp332 below, it's appreciated. There's a certain irony in me chuckling over the incorrect code in the track title and then being unable to format my own text minutes later, haha.

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by FridgeSeal » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:27 PM UTC

wincy wrote: post #71

reaperducer wrote: post #31

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It keeps playing a song called "My Likes" Meanwhile, here in Siri Land... Me: Hey, Siri, add "tomatoes" to my Groceries list. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapreducer. Which list should I add it to? Me: Groceries. Siri: OK, Reapredu…

I tried the same and got frustrated. So I said “Siri shut up you piece of garbage” and she added “shut up you piece of garbage” to my grocery list for me. Very helpful. Also Siri is constantly having problems knowing if I’m talking to my watch or my iPhone, even if my phone is in my pocket.

> Siri is constantly having problems knowing if I’m talking to my watch or my iPhone...

Funnily enough, this is one issue I don’t have: between my phone, watch and iPad I’m consistently impressed at how well it manages to choose the best one - does anyone know if Apple devices actively co-ordinate which one responds to Siri commands?

Re: Artist releases album called “Ok Google Play Music” on Spotify

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Post by binarymax » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:30 PM UTC

renewiltord wrote: post #5

My fucking Google Home can't even figure out how to play the auto playlist "My Likes" on YouTube Music. Previously, I could say "Play my Thumbs Up" and it could do so on Google Play Music. It keeps playing a song called "My Likes". Jesus fucking Christ, Google. If I say "Play my My Likes playlist" something random happens. Do these guys even use their product? I'm just glad this album didn't come out before the force…

It's probably obvious that the only way these services would get improved is if they actually made money. Alexa is constantly being improved since it's a vector for revenue. Siri and Google Home and Cortana are tinker toys for engineering and R&D.

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Post by m-ee » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:35 PM UTC

mcguire wrote: post #324

renewiltord wrote: post #5

My fucking Google Home can't even figure out how to play the auto playlist "My Likes" on YouTube Music. Previously, I could say "Play my Thumbs Up" and it could do so on Google Play Music. It keeps playing a song called "My Likes". Jesus fucking Christ, Google. If I say "Play my My Likes playlist" something random happens. Do these guys even use their product? I'm just glad this album didn't come out before the force…

About 16 years ago, I worked in the IBM Solutions Experience Lab (with the smart kitchen and living room and stuff). One thing I did was to set up the "smart car" simulator, which connected with IBM's cloud stuff at the time, including their voice recognition. I'm testing this diddly-bob and say, "Turn on headlights." The simulacar honks its horn. Loudly. Unfortunately, there was a tour going through the lab at the t…

This sounds like something from Better Off Ted

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Post by JeremyNT » Wed, Dec 02, 2020, 9:36 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #56

YouTube Music is so bad. Comically bad. I had an amazing indie music discovery service in Google Play Music. I found so many fantastic underplayed artists, and it helped me explore all the small music venues in my city. I've got a wall full of signed albums from artists I discovered with Google Play Music. YouTube music recommends Britney Spears . It's so awfully wrong about my tastes. It also randomly inserts YouTub…

> YouTube music recommends Britney Spears. It's so awfully wrong about my tastes.

Despite the fact that your Google Play Music "like" data is migrated into YT music, it doesn't seem to properly incorporate it in the algorithmically generated playlists.

What I've found is that I basically need to treat YT music as a clean slate, and specifically start playing and re-liking things (i.e., I'd re-play my favorite albums, thumb-down and thumb-up again the songs in them).

Now that I've done this, it's doing well enough - in some ways better than GPM was (multiple "mixes" presented as options with different clusters of artists in the summaries).

I can't say whether re-thumbing was what did the trick, or simply re-listening, though. And it's incredibly stupid that I should have to do this to make it work correctly.