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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by satisfaction »

tshaddox wrote: post #307
elmo2you wrote: post #202

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…

> rare, very long, simple

in this context those are simply weasel words in my opinion

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by trey-jones »

bla3 wrote: post #325
trey-jones wrote: post #294

Appalling to be sure, but you can't even log into a Chromebook if Google auth goes down, unless I'm mistaken.

Are you sure? I thought they cached login stuff locally so you can sign in while you're offline. Not sure though.

I admit that I don't have a Chromebook in front of me to test and that I'm not sure. This comment will likely be stricken from the record.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by foofoo4u »

Sidebar topic, but something that is always in the back of my head. Cars are becoming evermore connected to the web. If something as simple as this can brick my Mac, then what will it be like in a vehicle? Will all cars simultaneously go haywire at the same time around the world? This of course assumes software or hardware safety overrides are not in place to overcome such a situation.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by Dahoon »

valuearb wrote: post #170
_iyig wrote: post #124

This is the reason I needed to switch to a Linux laptop. I cannot be beholden to Apple’s - or anyone’s - servers when it comes to running applications on my own machine. Any recommendations? I’ve heard good things about System76.

Linux performs similar checks.

Stop spamming FUD.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by Lammy »

thrwwy90876 wrote: post #315
Lammy wrote: post #33

Maybe it's just me but the idea that my computer lets Apple (+ any LE organizations) surveil my app launches seems so much scarier than any malware.

If you haven't downloaded your data from Apple recently I suggest doing that. The amount of personal info they collect has exploded over the last couple years. Their Services business is moving them into Google levels of data collection.

> The amount of personal info they collect has exploded over the last couple years.

Since maybe 2016-ish? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FBI–Apple_encryption_dispute

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by jl2718 »

hk__2 wrote: post #291
pengaru wrote: post #31

Champions of privacy, phoning home a hash of every executable your computer runs!

> Champions of privacy, phoning home a hash of every executable your computer runs! What’s the matter with privacy? That’s a basic signature check, and you can do so while preserving privacy by using salted hashes or a similar solution.

I don’t understand how salted hashes would obfuscate the query. Private information retrieval is much more complicated than private password storage, and how do we know what the protocol is?

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by SnowflakeOnIce »

submeta wrote: post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

Right around this same time, I had 1 macBook hard reboot (watchdogd timeout) and shortly thereafter, a second macBook froze, fan maxed out, with the display not coming up. Then it rebooted into recovery mode.

Yeah, these _could_ be unrelated issues to what has been going on in Apple land today, but it's uncanny...

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by thekyle »

_iyig wrote: post #124

This is the reason I needed to switch to a Linux laptop. I cannot be beholden to Apple’s - or anyone’s - servers when it comes to running applications on my own machine. Any recommendations? I’ve heard good things about System76.

I recently bought an XPS Developer Edition, seems to work well.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

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Post by tj-teej »

tshaddox wrote: post #307
elmo2you wrote: post #202

Sincerely and without any intention to troll or be sarcastic: I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. Even beyond unintentional glitches at Apple, just ima…

> I'm puzzled that people are willing buy a computer/OS where (apparently) software can/will fail to launch if some central company server goes down. Maybe I'm just getting this wrong, because I can honestly not quite wrap my head around this. This is such a big no-go, from a systems design point of view. The answer is pretty simple: these problems are extremely rare, they don't last very long, and they tend to have…

I think more specifically it's rare enough that it hasn't happened to most people yet or people blame themselves ("my internet is bad" and the like)
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