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Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by TameAntelope » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:00 AM UTC

mattei wrote: post #308

axismundi wrote: post #249

How bizarre that I desperately try to contain these monsters in digital cages, keeping them on a VPN leash, carefully adding plugins, trying to maintain delicate balance. Sometimes I try too hard, the monsters are offended, throw errors, hide the contents away. Sometimes I miss something, and they devour my privacy bit by bit, unnoticed. I spend sleepless nights scouring the internet for new codes, secret browser opt…

Well put, the fact this is required is IMO an indictment of what Facebook has turned into. FB are not alone in this.

To be fair, it isn't required. The actual consequences of Facebook having your information has thus far been a benign experience for the vast majority of its subscribers.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by KingFelix » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:08 AM UTC

mmcclure wrote: post #34

I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

This is great, I have been using firefox forever never knew this. Thanks for posting!

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by aasasd » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:11 AM UTC

hannibalhorn wrote: post #278

smichel17 wrote: post #276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone in the know: what would it take to implement a "container over tor"? I am not currently a tor user, but absolutely would if I could integrate it with my current workflow (using the temporary containers addon).

tor provides a socks proxy, which you can assign to a container easy enough w/ the container proxy addon.

Does FF send DNS requests via the proxy? Depending on the personal threat model and the ISP, that might matter.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by stjohnswarts » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:12 AM UTC

shawnb576 wrote: post #176

mmcclure wrote: post #34

I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

Agree that containers are Firefox #1 killer feature and incredibly useful.

I used to have 4 or 5 profiles for firefox for various accounts and situations and containers let me leave all that mess behind. It's pretty awesome and I wish more people knew about it. It's one of the things I bring up to privacy oriented and people who need a lot of different logins.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by eitland » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:14 AM UTC

smichel17 wrote: post #290

eitland wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use persistent containers based on domain. Works brilliantly.

With what addon?

I only use the official "Firefox Multi-Account Containers" (on this browser).

It gives me a menu with choices like "Reopen This Site in..." and "Always Open This Site in..." as well as options to open a new tab in any of the permanent containers or even open new ones.

Tip: if anyone gets confused by a page popping up, saying something like "You asked me to always open this site in, do you still want to " a typical explanation for me was I had set at site to open in a specific container but as part of login procedure it would access another domain for sso, trigger "Always Open This Site in..." for that domain and get confused.

Now that you know this you should probably be able to either avoid it completely by being specific about subdomains or something.

It is not a big thing, just a heads up so nobody gets confused.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by plat12 » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:15 AM UTC

mmcclure wrote: post #34

I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

I use private windows in Safari, where each tab automatically behaves like its own container.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by nsomaru » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:21 AM UTC

plat12 wrote: post #346

mmcclure wrote: post #34

I use Firefox multi-account containers[1] extensively, it's honestly the primary reason I use Firefox these days. The big win for me is that I _hate_ having to use the Google account switcher, so I basically set up a container for each Gmail account (work, personal, old email, etc). The nice bonus feature is you can have certain sites default to containers. I had a paid YouTube account for a while, for example, so ha…

I use private windows in Safari, where each tab automatically behaves like its own container.

It’s not the same. All my uMatrix anc cookie auto delete rules are container specific. Private windows are like very simple containers that destroy themselves once closed.

AFAICT private Firefox windows are also part of the same container so you don’t get true separation (can’t open multiple Firefox private windows and log into different google accounts — does that work in Safari?)

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by stjohnswarts » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:26 AM UTC

philo23 wrote: post #55

JadoJodo wrote: post #23

A few others: - Temporary Containers[0] - Google Container[1] - Google Container w/ Integrations (YouTube, AdTech, Apps, etc)[2] - Reddit Container[3] There are a few others[4] as well, but I've found the Temporary Containers solves the 80%. -- [0] - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con... [1] - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/google-contai... [2] - https://addons.mozilla.org/en…

Worth pointing out that while they're probably safe (and do in fact use the same container APIs to separate out the domains), these are all from third-party developers. Where as the Facebook container is from Mozilla directly.

Multi-account containers IS made by Mozilla, actually

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by TheFlyingFish » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:27 AM UTC

aasasd wrote: post #343

hannibalhorn wrote: post #278

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tor provides a socks proxy, which you can assign to a container easy enough w/ the container proxy addon.

Does FF send DNS requests via the proxy? Depending on the personal threat model and the ISP, that might matter.

FF defaults to DNS-over-HTTPS now, so I would imagine it does, although I can't find solid confirmation.

Re: Facebook Container for Firefox

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Post by jtbayly » Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:28 AM UTC

nsomaru wrote: post #347

plat12 wrote: post #346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use private windows in Safari, where each tab automatically behaves like its own container.

It’s not the same. All my uMatrix anc cookie auto delete rules are container specific. Private windows are like very simple containers that destroy themselves once closed. AFAICT private Firefox windows are also part of the same container so you don’t get true separation (can’t open multiple Firefox private windows and log into different google accounts — does that work in Safari?)

Yes it works in Safari private tabs. I do that sort of thing regularly.