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Re: HomePod Mini

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Meanwhile a friend of mine flat refused to even consider buying any such device, from any vendor, because he's concerned about being spied on. He cited several real incidents where vendors like Amazon had been caught listening in and sending audio clips to random subcontractors for analysis. Several huge companies, including Facebook, Google, and Amazon have made it their business to maximally violate the privacy of…

Everyone is cheating (they’re adtech companies) but Apple isn’t. Apple doesn’t have to cheat. They just charge it upfront, sure Siri won’t ever catch up because of the lack of data (knowledge graph like Google), but I’m fine with a crappy Siri than evil smart Alexa.

That is a naive (and demonstrably false) assertion.

Apple's privacy stance is really just marketing, like "There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it."

You don't have to use an apple device for more than a minute to realize this.

For example, you cannot use a new apple iphone without activating it with apple.

In the first screen or two, you are presented with their privacy policy, with is literally hundreds of pages long.

The rest of the setup is full of dark patterns, and even though it is GDPR compliant, it is very hard not to come out of the process without signing in or allowing them access to your data.

I think all of this comes from "business common sense" which is based on fear. They want data (and control) because it is an easier and more guaranteed way to make and sell things.

The only way out of this (for all of us) is actually robust competition by someone who will do it right and not collect data in the first place. (hint: it will help if they use rounded corners, gradients and transparency)

Re: HomePod Mini

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re: on-device computation, you'll note from the presentation that they said that no data is sent to Apple _until you say "Hey Siri"_. They're still doing transcription in the cloud which requires sending your voice for Apple to process and store. I have no issues personally with using cloud services like this but they very much used weasley language in the presentation and website to obscure the fact that Apple's clo…

They don’t tie your request to your Apple ID and you can opt out of any recording being stored. Presumably this would make it impossible for a government body to subpoena your recordings, which as we’ve seen with Alexa is entirely possible.

I think the big brother would always find a way to do that, ip? mac?...

Re: HomePod Mini

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Doesn't seem slow to me. Mine responds quite quickly.

Maybe depends on country. iCloud is silly slow abroad. Takes 3 minutes to download 30 second video on a gig connection.

Yes, it's super slow abroad. Especially in the US.

Re: HomePod Mini

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I don't even really use any other Apple products, and have never really been particularly comfortable with smart assistants, but I have to say that the steps that they've taken here with E2E, non-AppleID-tied identifiers, on-device computation, and of course the really good price point have got me seriously considering a purchase from them for the first time in a long time. For my family members that already have App…

re: on-device computation, you'll note from the presentation that they said that no data is sent to Apple _until you say "Hey Siri"_. They're still doing transcription in the cloud which requires sending your voice for Apple to process and store. I have no issues personally with using cloud services like this but they very much used weasley language in the presentation and website to obscure the fact that Apple's clo…

Siri has always relied on external servers so it doesn’t bother much. I agree with your last point, I hope they move towards full on-device Siri

Re: HomePod Mini

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So here is the thing I struggle with. I have a NAS. On it is my media (music, videos, photos) collection. I do not have a subscription to Apple Music, or the reset of the streaming services and I not want one. So how do I play my own music collection with this? Right now to do this I have an AppleTV on every TV. I have an app on the AppleTV called MrMC which is basically a paid for port of Kodi for the AppleTV. The M…

There's a project called HomeBridge that lets other wifi/smart devices be seen on HomeKit and then can be controlled. Lots of user created plugins for a variety of things https://github.com/homebridge/homebridge

This works really well with Home Assistant

Re: HomePod Mini

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post #341

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Everyone is cheating (they’re adtech companies) but Apple isn’t. Apple doesn’t have to cheat. They just charge it upfront, sure Siri won’t ever catch up because of the lack of data (knowledge graph like Google), but I’m fine with a crappy Siri than evil smart Alexa.

That is a naive (and demonstrably false) assertion. Apple's privacy stance is really just marketing, like "There's nothing so absurd that if you repeat it often enough, people will believe it." You don't have to use an apple device for more than a minute to realize this. For example, you cannot use a new apple iphone without activating it with apple. In the first screen or two, you are presented with their privacy po…

I’m not convinced. Fundamentally, Apple is a services and a hardware company. They have no business in advertisement. Do you follow Stratechery (Ben Thompson)? He writes about Apple’s privacy fundamentalism here (midway through the post): https://stratechery.com/2019/privacy-fundamentalism/

Re: HomePod Mini

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I’ve never even heard of a HomePod bricking itself, nor does it sound plausible that Apple would charge to fix a device they bricked themselves, especially at $1 less than the price of a new device. I feel like you’re omitting something here.

It is plausible. 13.2 had a problem with bricking HomePods: https://www.macrumors.com/2019/10/28/new-13-2-update-brickin... And the out-of-warranty repair cost is $279. Perhaps they got it on sale at $280. https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/12/17003296/homepod-repair-i...

Did Apple demand that people pay the out-of-warranty repair cost price on HomePods bricked by this update? Because I feel like that would have been a PR disaster that would have been newsworthy. But all I can find right now is a reference regarding the 13.2.1 update saying some users have “arranged replacement devices” with Apple after contacting support.

Re: HomePod Mini

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One thing I don't quite understand about the HomeKit "ecosystem" is that there doesn't seem to be much of one... I've looked on the Apple store, the local electronics store, but everything I would expect to see in a range of smart devices are very notably absent. For example, I can't find a reasonably sized multi-port Apple HomeKit power board. I can't find motion or person presence sensors. In fact, just about the o…

Home kit works really nice when combined with something like Home Assistant. I can use any kind of smart device I want while still interacting through the clean native HomeKit interface

Re: HomePod Mini

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Sonos spies on your usage instead of your audio, and is nowhere near the Homepod in terms of sound quality.

Sure there’s some level of tracking, but that wasn’t my point. My point is that it’s mic free Also, Sonos speakers from my research outperform HomePod in terms of sound - but if you have data to suggest otherwise feel free to share

Can't comment about the sound quality.

As far as privacy however, I definitely understand people's worry about the mic, but honestly I think it distracts from really looking at the data tracking practices and how much data is collected even without a mic. See [0]

I'm curious about Apple's data tracking, but based on their marketing page alone it definitely feels like they've given it a big consideration and it's not an afterthought. I cannot say the same for Sonos unfortunately. (I assume Google/Alexa etc are worse, but I don't use those, and didn't dig into it).

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24680614

Re: HomePod Mini

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Am I right in thinking this doesn’t work as a speaker for your living room unless you do everything through Apple TV? Is there a way to use it with a PS4 at all for example?
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