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Post by DivisionSol »

hda2 wrote: post #324
DivisionSol wrote: post #147

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Wanted to comment on this. I see this very differently than the Samsung situation. Spotify provides music for ads, unless you pat the subscription. I am not offended that Spotify would do this for their “free”/ad-supported users. I pay for Spotify, I get no ads. That’s the way it’s supposed to be.

> I pay for Spotify, I get no ads. That’s the way it’s supposed to be. And how long do you think this will last before they decide insert ads into paid subscriptions? Cable TV did it. "Full-price" games are doing it. TVs are doing it. It would be extremely naive to assume that spotify won't do it at some point. Besides, my admittedly poorly-expressed objection is not to the ads themself but to the way people are bein…

Unlikely and I’ll cancel my subscription when it happens. Netflix putting promos at the start of their series is almost enough for me to cancel there.

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Post by barrkel »

bo1024 wrote: post #268
ptx wrote: post #248

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What do you buy instead? I don't imagine it's easy to find a recent, high-quality TV without "smart" features. A few years ago, I looked into getting a digital signage display instead, but they were pretty expensive.

You can also look at 1080p projectors, although they are expensive.

They are not that expensive, particularly when you consider you can have a 100" screen without needing to dedicate a whole lot of space - a pull-down screen can be rolled up when not in use.

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Post by viraptor »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #278
ptx wrote: post #248

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What do you buy instead? I don't imagine it's easy to find a recent, high-quality TV without "smart" features. A few years ago, I looked into getting a digital signage display instead, but they were pretty expensive.

No TV allowed in our house (it's unrelated to ads: they didn't exist on TVs back when we decided to outlaw TVs at home). I'm using something which is arguably both cheaper, bigger and gives more of a "cinema" feeling: a 1080p projector. 4K projector can be pricey, but there are a huge lot of very reasonably priced 1080p projectors. Just make sure to find one which is compatible with the size of your room (mine is in…

I did something similar and it works great. If you're worried about wanting to watch something during the day, get one of the laser projectors like Epson's. They're relatively cheap and work perfectly even without closing the curtains.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by viraptor »

halter73 wrote: post #337
matheusmoreira wrote: post #221

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How can we block all of this? Is Pi-hole sufficient?

Before I disconnected my Samsung TV from the internet, it was responsible for the majority of DNS queries blocked by Pi-hole on my home network. I'm not sure if it blocked everything though.

Soon it won't be enough with DNS over HTTPS becoming more popular. It's probably still ok to use pihole, but if you want to be safer, you'll have to block https to 1.1.1.1 (and other providers) as well.

Or ideally, block by source not by destination.

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Post by munchbunny »

pault wrote: post #211
munchbunny wrote: post #77

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This, and the built-in voice assistant, is why I have a blanket rule that the smart TV will never touch the internet. If I want to stream things, that can go through the gaming PC that's right next to the TV.

How do you handle streaming when all of the services refuse to stream 4K on any computer? I think Netflix does HD bit Hulu and HBO are like 720p. It's like watching a torrent from 2005.

1. I don't watch that much TV.

2. I mostly watch Netflix, very rarely Hulu, and in general resolution hasn't been an issue for my usage patterns.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by petepete »

m463 wrote: post #329
petepete wrote: post #218

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I wrote this guide a few years ago, hopefully you'll find it useful. These days a Pi-Hole will do the trick. https://gist.github.com/peteryates/b44b70d19ccd52f62d66cdd4b...

Note that pi-hole is dns-based. It's pretty trivial to design a device that does it's own name resolution.

And by that time I'll have learnt my lesson and bought a non-smart display, or one from a premium company.

Re: Samsung Ads – Demand-Side Platform

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Post by [deleted] »

stallmanite wrote: post #70
snarfy wrote: post #29

Samsung really needs to just flush their entire software division. It's all garbage. Their android software is a frustrating joke. Tizen is a hot mess. Every issue I've ever had with a samsung product was with their software, and it's why I've sworn off the brand as a whole.

The management maybe. I have a hard time believing that the rank and file engineers get to call the shots on this garbage. I have no special insight into how Samsung works internally though.

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Post by petre »

stallmanite wrote: post #70
snarfy wrote: post #29

Samsung really needs to just flush their entire software division. It's all garbage. Their android software is a frustrating joke. Tizen is a hot mess. Every issue I've ever had with a samsung product was with their software, and it's why I've sworn off the brand as a whole.

The management maybe. I have a hard time believing that the rank and file engineers get to call the shots on this garbage. I have no special insight into how Samsung works internally though.

> I have no special insight into how Samsung works internally though.

The typical culture at one of these conglomerates is highly paternalistic in nature. Much of the environment is defined by the chairman who acts as a "fatherly-figure" to his subordinates.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaebol

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Post by tolbish »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #191
colejohnson66 wrote: post #46

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I bought a TCL Roku TV and thankfully the only ads are on the home screen where you select the input or app.[a] I can’t imagine watching video from an input and the TV deciding I want an ad on top of my movie. [a] I don’t delude myself into thinking this won’t change, but so far, I can just tune out (no pun intended) the ad on the side. Not to mention that the ads are of shows and movies, not products (which would be…

>the only ads are on the home screen // So you only have to see ads, on a service you bought outright, every single time you turn it on? No thanks.

Stockholm Syndrome is in fact a thing.

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Post by [deleted] »

cascom wrote: post #261

Seems to me the answer is simple, just like cigarettes, food, or credit cards, there needs to be a big disclaimer on the front of the box: Waring: This TV shows ads that can’t be turned off Warning: This TV records what you watch, when and for how long and shares that with third parties I know I wouldn’t buy a TV with that warning on the front of the box

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