Earlier quoted context omitted.
It hasn't been widely covered outside of the anti-CCP sources. It seems to be gaining a bit of traction lately. If you are interested, Epoch times, BitterWinter and others have been covering this for a long time. Establishment media partisans aren't shy about using Nazi comparisons. Over the past year you would have been more likely to hear criticisms of US immigration policies painted in this light.
> Epoch times Friendly reminder that The Epoch Times is not a reliable news source, it promotes far-right politics in Germany, usually publishes conspiracy theories including QAnon, and was deprecated as a source by Wikipedia in 2019 [1], which means all edits containing links to The Epoch Times will be automatically reverted. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deprecated_sources#C...
China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
341–350 of 420 posts
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#342It's important to realize that Xinjiang is a colony of China. China took over Xinjiang in the past few hundred years; historically, kingdoms there were independent. Sometimes they had tributary relationships, other times they were allies of the Chinese kingdoms. Colonialism takes many forms and Europeans don't have a monopoly on it. The Uyghurs have rebelled many times and even formed short-lived states, the last bef…
In a world of global competition singling out Xinjiang as a colony while ignoring how China's biggest military threat is literally built on top of colonial conquests isn't a fair comparison. Where is the line that makes Xinjiang a "colony" while New York isn't? Is the US going to magically move its navy back to its side of the Pacific and stop waving it menacingly around China's oil shipping routes if China carves out Xinjiang and Tibet?
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
What's happening there is despicable. But to the best of my knowledge there's no extermination. There aren't hundreds of thousands being shot or gassed. It looks more like a "cultural genocide", the kind we saw exercised against the Tibetans. I understand the emotions over this issue, and I don't think the holocaust is beyond comparison, but in this instance the comparison falls short.
The reports coming from inside the camps suggest that the death rate is very high, even without systematic executions.
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#344Do you guys remember when a Chinese soldier beat up someone who was holding the Koran? Well, except, it didn't happen: https://factcheck.afp.com/no-not-video-chinese-soldier-beati... Also, when are people going to stop using satellite imaging as a proof of evidence? I mean, let's not forget the whole casus belli for the last Iraq war, where there was clear evidence of WMDs from all those satellite images right? I mea…
The Chinese people are great. The country is awesome but the current government is tyrannical. We know that millions died under Mao yet he is still praised. That alone is enough for me to distrust the CCP.
It's my understanding that Mao is held in good regard by his people for the communist revolution, which liberated China from colonial powers, their colonization by the West and the Japanese occupation being a deeply disturbing part of their history.
It is also my understanding that Mao is also considered by most to have been misguided, senile, and/or perhaps usurped by others (like the gang of four) for things like the great leap forward and the cultural revolution which happened later. He is not admired for these events.
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#345Earlier quoted context omitted.
>If he'd shown the tiniest bit of competent leadership through the pandemic, we could have locked down for 2 months, suffered the high unemployment, and then largely gotten back to normalcy(+masks) by now. Then why haven't the Blue states that have been locked down for months gotten back to normalcy? Like California and New York? Why hasn't Melbourne gotten back to normalcy? Almost nowhere that prevented a first wave…
Blue states can't go back to normalcy since diseased red staters can still travel freely within the country and ruin it all over again. Also because Americans are too stubborn to mask up for the privilege of normalcy. Places like Australia have gone back to normalcy(+masks) now. Japan can pack a train full of people(+masks).
Yeah, because everyone flocks into NY and CA nowadays, and it's not the other way around.
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#346Earlier quoted context omitted.
What a weird take. Every administration before our current one appeased China despite their obvious human rights issues. This is the first admin to challenge the issue.
The weird take is going after LeBron James like it is his job to conduct international diplomacy, while giving Trump a break on his personal Chinese business interests.
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#347It's important to realize that Xinjiang is a colony of China. China took over Xinjiang in the past few hundred years; historically, kingdoms there were independent. Sometimes they had tributary relationships, other times they were allies of the Chinese kingdoms. Colonialism takes many forms and Europeans don't have a monopoly on it. The Uyghurs have rebelled many times and even formed short-lived states, the last bef…
In "the past few hundred years" the US took over the American continent and cleaned up exceptionally well. In a world of global competition singling out Xinjiang as a colony while ignoring how China's biggest military threat is literally built on top of colonial conquests isn't a fair comparison. Where is the line that makes Xinjiang a "colony" while New York isn't? Is the US going to magically move its navy back to…
The colony-empire relationship is a just a node along the gradient of territory and domination. The relevant thing here is the continued persecution of the Uyghur minority and the annexation of territory, and continued resistance. It's similar to Kashmir under India, Palestine under Israel, and East Timor under Indonesia.
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#348Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I denounced it online several times, that's all I can do. You can do more. Write your representatives. Call their offices (both Democrat and Republican), and buy fewer Chinese products, even it costs more money. Please keep in mind I'm not criticizing you here, just saying you could literally do more if you wanted to. I do get annoyed with people who "complain online'. That's just a waste of time. Call your represe…
> Call your representatives. They will respond to thousands of phone calls from constituents saying "do X". What do you say to people who don't really believe this? I don't think I'm the only one who looks at the political scene (and much of "reality" as it is projected into our brains through the media) and thinks it's largely theatre. Kayfabe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf…
Nothing really. They've lost faith in democracy and have given up on the country. What else is there to talk about? If you have no faith in the system and don't want to participate then I'm not sure what you want or you're expecting.
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#349Earlier quoted context omitted.
And than? The whole system depends on cheap supply of goods. Look what happend during the lookdown in China And it's not people want cheap stuff, most only can afford cheap stuff. Money is a finite source, the more some people have, the less have others.
We can get cheaper goods from other developing nations
Re: China Built a Vast New Infrastructure to Imprison Uighurs
#350Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would sure be upset with whoever nominated him to join the National Security Council.
I am! It was a horrible mistake and I'm glad he's gone now. But to be clear, Bolton did the vast majority of his damage during the Bush administration.