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Post by legulere »

TedShiller wrote: post #194
atarian wrote: post #13

Palmer Luckey, the original creator had this to say over on /r/oculus: I am already getting heat from users and media outlets who say this policy change proves I was lying when I consistently said this wouldn't happen, or at least that it was a guarantee I wasn't in a position to make. I want to make clear that those promises were approved by Facebook in that moment and on an ongoing basis, and I really believed it w…

Just make a fake FB account exclusively for this purpose. If you're forced to use a FB account at least don't link it to your actual profile. I have a separate fake FB account for every service that requires FB.

Better send it back and ask for a refund. They intentionally broke something they advertised with.

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Post by ahartmetz »

Ace17 wrote: post #222
halfFact wrote: post #182

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This really is no surprise. So many threads on the front page shocked at the evils of Facebook and Apple. All were predicted given their past record. Don't buy from bad companies and this isn't an issue.

... except when the non-bad company you bought your DK-1 from gets bought by a bad company.

Non-bad companies could set up "will not get bought by Facebook" poison pills. Say they will release all IP to the public domain when acquired by Facebook. Enforceable contract with a third party.

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Post by Nextgrid »

the_other wrote: post #80
vmception wrote: post #64

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The same thing applies to the gullible idealists that believe in B-Corporations

Can you unpack that a bit?

I'm pretty sure there is at least one MLM aka pyramid scheme that is bragging about being a B-Corp which they use to try and ensnare new victims. That's all you need to know to understand that the "B" in B-Corp stands for bullshit and steer well clear of any that explicitly brag about that status (if your business truly acts in a manner that makes the world better you wouldn't need to buy a bullshit certification to prove it).

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by jameshart »

ABoldGambit wrote: post #323
kps wrote: post #303

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You'll be downvoted because HN etiquette not because people necessarily disagree with your sentiment

That sentiment is of course not, originally, attributable to kps though.

Regarding people who ascribe benign intent to Facebook, it was first expressed by one M Zuckerberg. In 2004. And first reported by Business Insider in 2010.

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Post by wlesieutre »

ivalm wrote: post #307
wlesieutre wrote: post #103

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I don't know about Razer recently, but I have a 13 button Logitech mouse (G700s) and it would be essentially useless without the Logitech software to configure it. I assume Razer mice are the same, you could technically use them without Synapse, but if you're doing that you may as well have bought a Microsoft Intellimouse instead. And Synapse did require a login for several years. Looks like it doesn't anymore, thank…

I have a razer deathadder chroma with a kvm switch on mac/windows/linux systems. I do not have razer app installed on any of the three systems and the mouse works fine (including the forward/back side buttons and pressable scroll (so 5 buttons total)).

OSes do well up to that point, but 5 buttons is the limit of what tends to work well without some sort of special drivers

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Post by triceratops »

wolco wrote: post #330
triceratops wrote: post #220

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If you stop smoking you'll feel better but it's not going to do anything to reduce smoking in the world overall. The only thing that can reduce smoking is the law: taxes, restrictions on where smoking is permitted, and so on. You should still stop smoking (for your own good) but that alone won't change the world.

It does reduce smoking by one smoker.

A statistically insignificant reduction to the world population of smokers. Without laws to prevent tobacco marketing to minors, the cigarette industry could add 100x as many customers in a day.

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #314
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #283

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And it has a simple solution, albeit an unsavory one to many of America's more free-market minded persons: If they are effectively a public space, then nationalize them and make it official.

That will never happen. The politician that sets it up will be voted out in the next election and everything he's done will be undone. Even as progressive as I am I will never vote for anyone who wants to nationalize a private company. That's what the CCP does, not America.

If America is unwilling to stomach nationalizing a private company, but will stomach privatizing a previously public domain, where do you think that's going to land us?

Re: Facebook account now required to login to Oculus devices

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Post by legulere »

umvi wrote: post #172
danShumway wrote: post #116

A very brief history of Facebook's involvement with Oculus and how this has shaped up, just from quickly searching HN previous posts: - (2014) Facebook acquires Oculus: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7469115 , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7469237 - (2016) Oculus's privacy policy sparks concern: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11410809 Oculus responds to privacy concerns about user tracking ( https:…

But did Facebook add any value (i.e. engineering money/hours) to improve the device? What you've listed are all negatives, but there have to be at least a few positives to come out of it.

Of course you first need to fatten an animal before you slaughter it.

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Post by Nextgrid »

jacquesm wrote: post #253
hapless wrote: post #221

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Good luck enforcing GDPR against any of the malign actors you should most wish to enforce GDPR against

Facebook and everything associated with it is doing everything they can to be and remain GDPR compliant. Facebook has already been fined under the GDPR so it looks like that enforcement is working.

Facebook is not GDPR compliant at all. The only reason they appear to be is that there is no enforcement of this regulation so nobody is actually looking at what they're doing.
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