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Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

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Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#341
I share a lot of the commenters opinions: most of the toxicity (and intrusion) of social networks are due to... THE FEED. and they only affect us because we keep checking on them. Yes, they are engineered to "make" us go back over and over again to check for "news", but if we are aware of that, there are (arguably convoluted) ways to minimize that effect. The following is my experience on how I dealt with facebook, but I have since applied to linkedin and others.

Years ago I started "leaving" facebook by just: not visiting it. I didn't delete my account, I didn't explicitly posted anything announcing what I was going to do. I just stopped visiting it.

Now, it wasn't a trivial as that, because facebook will notify you, will email you, will send you messages reminding of everything I was missing out. So, along with the decision of "leaving" facebook I had to manually go and disable every way facebook could reach my attention. It took a while but it wasn't hard: I disabled email alerts (or just filtered them straight to trash) whenever I received one. For years I didn't have fb or messenger apps on my phone, or I would just disable them if I couldn't remove them. Now, with more granular control over notification I may install them but disable notifications entirely. In fact, I take a similar approach to email. While I do receive visual notifications of email, I don't get sound of vibration. In fact, my phone is in silent mode practically all day (I do have some rules that allow certain calls to breakthrough)

To me, gaining back control was about removing the ability of apps (and people) to digitally reach me whenever they felt like. And this is the core of my attitude with "leaving" social networks: it's about controlling when I want to actively use them (as little as needed). So, deleting account feels (to me) as I gave up having control (and extracting the little benefit of a network).

Also, it's not just about control how apps reach us.

It's also about establishing the social boundaries with friends, family and acquaintances: socials networks are NOT how you can get my attention. you may get my attention, but don't count on it. if you really need to find me you probably know how.

I still extract value from facebook/ig/linkedin on my own terms. But those companies probably get much less value out of me given their business models. I feel it's alright. In fact, I feel (maliciously?) better in this approach.

I still get linkedin job offers, and I do respond to them, probably after a few days when I feel like checking.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#342

It’s clear from the comments that many people have no positive experiences with LinkedIn. For me, LinkedIn was the tool that not only helped me get into better companies, but also introduced me to Hacker News. I joined Skype/Microsoft, then Skyscanner, then Uber: all after a LinkedIn recruiter reachout. They were opportunities I did not know or think about and I would have never applied to any of them at the time. I…

Twice LinkedIn connections have resulted in full time jobs for me. It's just another outlet for passive job searching IMO, and I think it fills that position better than Dice or Monster or any other resume site, so I'm content with keeping a LinkedIn account.

I also check it maybe once every other week so it doesn't mostly doesn't have an impact on my life really.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#343

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Of late (this year) in my experience the job section is mostly reposts of other jobs or positions already filled or fake roles. Any post by a company with no logo is virtually guaranteed to be spam. I'm seeing them side-by-side with the real post. It's highly polluted by these bad actors.

LinkedIn has their own job platform with the “Easy apply” feature, but also seems to scrape job ads from a lot of third-party sites. The scraped ones are the bad ones. Bad formatting and categorisation, not kept up to date (the job might be expired on the original site but still displayed on LinkedIn) and you have to register and apply on an external site. It’s quite ironic that LinkedIn is so against scraping despit…

No company wants automation played against them, they want automation put to use by them, to benefit them. Hypocrite paradox. It wouldn't be the first one.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#344
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Now that I think about it, most of my complaints about LinkedIn is about the "news feed". Its full of mostly useless content by wannabe thought leaders drowning out a few posts which may have been insightful/relevant. Job search and add/message connections are the only features I have found useful.

I use uBlock Origin to completely block out the news feed and messaging, and it makes my LinkedIn experience orders of magnitude better. When I visit linkedin.com, now, I'm greeted with a navigation header bar and a blank page where the news feed used to be. It's perfect. I personally found messaging to not be very useful or relevant, and I just couldn't keep up with the backlog of messages. If they really want to co…

Reading the comments here. I find it scary that people are willing to deal with broken "tools" to such an extent and manipulate their own behavior to fit profit-seeking companies. I can see why we will be stuck with the same few social media and recruiting platforms because people are not willing to change but they are willing to put in the effort.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#345
Linkedin is absolutely useless after a person retires when it could be used to connect people to volunteer projects and meaningful non-profit groups looking for experienced free help. I'd go so far as to say it's ageist because it sends the message that once you're retired, you're worthless.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#346
LinkedIn got me the job I'm currently in at this here publishing saltmine back in 2013, so I'm a little ambivalent about it - but only a little.

Let's put it this way, in the beginning LinkedIn was useful - very useful, but as many commenters are noting here, it's now become something wholly different from what it started out as.

I deleted my account a good few years ago now and I don't regret it. And I doubt now that I would ever go back - even if I needed to find another job.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#347
Completely biased article.

“As everyone knows, LinkedIn is a glorified resume site. Nothing actually happens there (unless you are a recruiter or in enterprise sales?).”

This means op could not get any benefit out of an online tool, this does not mean nothing happens there. LinkedIn has been tremendously helpful to find my last 2 jobs. You have to know how to use it, specially the premium account. The market research aspect of it is amazing. I do not enjoy the social media aspect and the timeline approach. Stay away from that.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#348
I deleted LinkedIn about 5 years ago when I went totally independent. I was super happy not to have it. I recently re-created it because a consulting engagement put me back in the center of "Are you on LinkedIn?" discussions.

I do look forward to closing my account again. There's a lot of "professional posting" that goes on -- professional signaling, and uplifting daily posts. Knowing the people who are posting these things, and how they go about their daily work lives -- it's a lot like fitspo/fitfam posts on Instagram.

And companies I have some back office knowledge of are flat out lying about their responses to the pandemic (No, you didn't respond to the pandemic by laying off any FTEs; yes, you did lay-off all your contractors on day 3; and actually, you did have a round of FTE layoffs subsequently but your posting army got their "I'm so proud of my company and the fact that they didn't do any FTE layoffs" posts out the day before the layoff round).

Glad some people get value out of it. Feels of our social times too much for me.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#349

From a professional standpoint LinkedIn gave me a lot of value for free so I'm mostly feeling positive about it, but I agree that like any social network it has downsides and can lead to psychological stress. Personally I live by the mantra that "scrolling is dangerous", i.e. I try to never interact with social media or news platforms that incite me to scroll down a feed of algorithmically curated news or updates, as…

> From a professional standpoint LinkedIn gave me a lot of value for free i'm curious what others see as value from the platform. in my narrow view: - i have a list of connections id most likely be able to contact off platform - a feed full of virtue signaling and mostly useless content - messages from random recruiters. usually the full extent of the interaction is: phonecall, redo resume and send over, ghost (40+ i…

Both my current job and my previous job were initiated by recruiters who contacted me on LinkedIn.

LinkedIn has been extremely valuable to me. The recruiters who contact me are usually from professional executive search firms and highly relevant, though I only get a few a year.

I think the level of relevance depends on the industry though. I'm in finance/banking and fairly senior.

Re: Finally, I Closed My LinkedIn

#350

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Some companies require engagement with social media as a requirement for advancement. So you are not wrong about the wannabe thought leaders. This is where they go. Nobody will make negative comments on these posts- it's like making a negative comment about your boss in public.

> ...it's like making a negative comment about your boss in public. That brings up another issue, that employment background checks are increasingly checking social media posts for "questionable" activity. It's already daunting enough to see that I can't express my true self on places like FB for various reasons but now it's a factor when I'm applying for work? I think if it was voluntary, and for like a PR position…

>That brings up another issue, that employment background checks are increasingly checking social media posts for "questionable" activity.

Honestly, can you blame them in the current climate? If they can find something that is seriously questionable (I leave the definition of that to the reader), anyone else can too. And no company wants either internal dissent or an external PR hit because someone they hired ranted online about something that's outside the scope of "civilized" discourse as determined by the standards of the arbiters of appropriate public discussion.

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