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Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by asdfgtrewq »

blotter_paper wrote: post #43
hirundo wrote: post #13

The protests were sparked by the lack of accountability of the police resulting in police brutality. The violent people among the protesters are subject to the same incentives. The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence. Anonymizing photos of the violent ones is therefore likely to support their actions by making accountability less likely. To scrub ethically, limit i…

The more that protestors refrain from violent property destruction, the less likely it becomes that the three cops who were accessories in the murder of George Floyd get charges brought against them. Burning down one precinct got one cop charged (albeit with a 3rd degree); I would really love to see the other three charged, even if it requires some anonymous protestors to light up three more precincts. I'd gladly tra…

Did you read the autopsy report? Criminal died of over dose of drugs in his system and condition of his heart. His heart condition reflects his lifestyle. Lack of oxygen was not at all the cause of death.

How is officer responsible for his death?

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by anonymousiam »

thephyber wrote: post #212
anonymousiam wrote: post #152

Timely article, but what about violent criminal activity during protests? Peaceful protests are wonderful and have been very effective throughout history. The protests we've seen for the past few days are not helping anything. Yes, people are angry at the criminal behavior of the police officer/murderer, but manifesting that anger by destroying property, looting, injuring, and threatening others, is only going to jus…

These are two separate things happening at near the same places. This is being done on purpose by people with anarchist tendencies -- to hide among legitimate protesters. Some agitators are anti-government. Others are full on anarchists. Others want to bait people into race wars (a la the Turner Diaries, cited by white nationalist mass shooters and the Oklahoma City bomber).

Do not forget about the Trump "resistors". I'm assuming that they are out with the mob too.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by asdfgtrewq »

blotter_paper wrote: post #270
tal8d wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be the topic of the week, if we were seeing protests. What we are actually seeing is something that is quickly approaching race riots, here is how that has happened: Local government officials pulled law enforcement, because cops are bad and protesters are good. Looting and arson cause hundreds of millions of dollars of property damage to those that have nothing to do with the purported cause of the riots.…

6 paragraphs, 0 answers as to whether George Floyd deserved the form of justice you would extend to his murders or why he got an extrajudicial execution instead. If there weren't riots, the topic would be whether to charge the direct murderer. Because of the riots, the discussion has shifted to charging his accomplices. This is progress, but not enough progress. And yes, I definitely want to see them convicted. If th…

Did you read the autopsy report? Criminal died of over dose of drugs in his system and condition of his heart. His heart condition reflects his lifestyle. Lack of oxygen was not at all the cause of death.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by asdfgtrewq »

blotter_paper wrote: post #288
eanzenberg wrote: post #139

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George Floyd absolutely deserved the right treatment. He didn’t get it, and the perps should be brought to justice. Getting revenge for George’s injustice is not justice. It’s not what civilized society is built on. In the end, we were a society that protects even the murders and rapists and the worst of the worst offenders from extra-judicial revenge for their actions.

In this pattern of cases, the system is the perpetrator of extra-judicial violence. We've had plenty of time for the system to correct itself, and it hasn't. Now a precinct gets burned down, a cop gets charges the next day, and I'm like, okay ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ that seemed to work. It's not about revenge, it's about fixing the system by any means necessary. Fire works, protest signs haven't been.

Have to wonder does anyone pay attention to the facts?

* He did not obey any orders given to him by officers. * Police had to pull him out of his car. * He resisted the arrest after that. * Threw himself down on ground before they could put him in police vehicle. * Said he can't breathe, which all criminals say to loosen the grip of officers.

However his autopsy shows he died of drug overdose and heart conditions.

And officer doing his job is a bad guy?

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by abathur »

bigiain wrote: post #337
abathur wrote: post #324

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FWIW, I don't think the post you're responding to is correct? At least, I couldn't readily find a place where HIBP tells me not to fill in the form. And it bothers assuring me that it goes to great lengths not to make it obvious what password my client is checking. Your question is on target--one I've wondered myself--but I've come to the conclusion that it isn't for people who already have the sense not to put their…

Pop open dev tools and take a look at the network traffic when you put "silverfish3" into that form: It sends a GET request for " https://api.pwnedpasswords.com/range/89F5D" and gets back 548 rows of the form: 001F74CD3E241B7820C996DA4FB3BDF9FE7:2 ... 54C7FB299EC06A0B979C5DE14F1AE61F653:40 ... FFE6FF5698CEC527CD18269D1B7697C8743:1 Note that middle example row with ":40" at the end? Prepend "89F5D" from that GET reque…

I think maybe you've mis-read me. I'm well aware of how HIBP does this.

But it doesn't matter what you or I can prove the site does or doesn't do with our passwords; my dad or aunt shouldn't type their passwords into random forms on the internet. Whether it tells them it's using k-anonymization or not.

You still wouldn't pop your dev tools open but then type your real password into a random form on the internet before you'd kicked the API-tires with some fakes.

Anyone who isn't prepared to kick the tires and hasn't established a trust relationship has no business doing it.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by giardini »

tal8d wrote: post #299
giardini wrote: post #254

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aaugustt says> "And if they're not convicted... 1992 will look like a joke." So what if a jury finds them innocent, which is highly likely? What do you mean "1992 will look like a joke"?

A billion dollars of property damage and the targeted destruction of businesses operated by Korean immigrants, but multiplied by a factor that will ensure laughter at the memory of those killed in the '92 race riots? I don't know how you could more charitably interpret the "wish".

tal8d said 3 hours ago>'A billion dollars of property damage and the targeted destruction of businesses operated by Korean immigrants, but multiplied by a factor that will ensure laughter at the memory of those killed in the '92 race riots? I don't know how you could more charitably interpret the "wish".'I believe you're having problems thinking clearly. Here, in a public forum, you threaten

"A billion dollars of property damage and the targeted destruction of businesses operated by Korean immigrants..."

which is little more than a megalomanic wish. Shouldn't you be taking some medication or, at the least, seeing a psychologist instead of wasting our time here?

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by djsumdog »

hirundo wrote: post #13

The protests were sparked by the lack of accountability of the police resulting in police brutality. The violent people among the protesters are subject to the same incentives. The more they expect to be held accountable, the more likely they will refrain from violence. Anonymizing photos of the violent ones is therefore likely to support their actions by making accountability less likely. To scrub ethically, limit i…

I agree entirely. Can we not blur out the faces of people who are looting (stealing), destroying property, defacing city and national sites and violently attacking people and store owners? This is super fucked.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by pstuart »

jariel wrote: post #295
pstuart wrote: post #208

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> This is not fair at all. Nyet, comrade. My points were perfectly valid and to not acknowledge them is willful ignorance at best. Black bloc and others are a problem but that actually feeds into what the authorities want, which is to completely suppress protest and civil disobedience. Challenge: explain away the arrest of compliant CNN reporters on live tv, as well as the intentional targeting of reporters elsewhere…

That police, in some instances, act irresponsibly, does not invalidate the absolute need for police to use some degree of force given the prevalence of a variety of violent agitators. As for the journalist - in a riot situation, people are often detained temporarily as police are clearing areas. Once a riot hits, the police are within their rights to clear out areas. While the legality of temporary detainment varies,…

So to summarize your assessment: you have no real problem with the state of police conduct in the U.S., and that these protests cause all the trouble.

I think the only way you would ever change your mind is if you went to one of these protests just to observe peacefully and respectfully, and then get caught up in a sweep. Experiential learning is powerful stuff.

Please bear in mind that this topic is not about denying rightful enforcement of law, it's the exact opposite: ensuring enforcement of the law is just and in the interests of all.

Re: Image Scrubber: tool for anonymizing photographs taken at protests

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Post by rland »

cheald wrote: post #192
jlokier wrote: post #156

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> They are under arrest right now. One of the four officers is charged. With a lesser charge than some are calling for (third-degree instead of first-degree murder). I don't think the other three officers are under arrest right now. Some people regard them as involved and getting off too lightly so far.

First-degree is premeditated. Third-degree is depraved-heart ("murder as a result of callous disregard for the value of life"). What evidence supports a first-degree charge? If you want him to walk, charge him with first-degree. Good luck proving premeditation beyond a reasonable doubt. The depraved-heart charge is a slam dunk, and is clearly the right one if you actually want justice.

First degree does require prior intent, but it can be in a very short period of time (minutes, or even seconds). Basically, if you can stop and think about what you're doing at any point and prevent the murder, you can be convicted of 1st degree murder for having carried it through.

I think there could be a pretty compelling 1st degree case there, since the officer had Floyd's neck under his knee for so long. He could have stopped the assault at any point.

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