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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The president is the most visible face of the government. Of all the ones you mentioned, it's the only one people actually vote for. What he says and does has the most impact. So I don't find it "interesting", I find it entirely reasonable.

Only if you think that there are only Americans in this world. Hint: there are non-Americans too. Downvotes? HN really thinks there are only Americans on this planet? Of dear.

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Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

Instead of being the police, Twitter should do what Rotten Tomatoes does. There are plenty of people - journalists and researchers analyzing the facts behind what celebrities say. They should analyze what the analysts say and display a score.

[insert black mirror joke reference]

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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I find it clever that Twitter is not deleting the tweets, but simply adding their opinions about it. I don't know if you can call "censure" when your messages are still visible to the public, but the "editor-that-is-not-really-an-editor-but-sort-of" simply adds a banner saying "yeah, sure, right." I can't wait for Trump to protest the flagging, and Twitter to respond that "flagging tweets while letting them visible"…

yes we support free speech but if they are editiorializing then section 230 no longer applies to them. we should prosecute them for all the child exploitation and other crimes such as defamation on their platform

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

The valley being an echo chamber doesn’t necessarily mean those implementing this have their heads in the sand.

It can’t be all perfectly achieved, but to do nothing, as they were before, could be now determined to be a worse case than providing these annotations to flagrant misuse by the highest impact profile that they can’t do away with entirely.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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post #307

The White House twitter account has issued a response: https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1266367168603721728?s=... This* Tweet violated the Twitter Rules about glorifying violence. However, @Twitter has determined that it will allow terrorists, dictators, and foreign propagandists to abuse its platform. *Referring to an attached picture of a Khamenei tweet about Palestine

That's amazing. Of all the horrific thing people post to Twitter all day long, a vague statement about Palestinian independence is the "best" whataboutist comparison Trump could find to match his own threat to open fire on the country he is sworn to defend.

I don't think the Khomenni tweet is a valid comparison to Trumps (for other reasons) but lets be honest — This tweet is anything but a "vague statement about Palestinian independence", since it directly references and advocates for Jihad and Martyrdom.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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post #152

Good, and frankly they should have been doing this sort of thing sooner.

I'm guessing they had been holding back until the campaigning season started. Now they get maximum impact.

His feed has been getting worse recently, and the publicity of his misbehavior has been escalating. Maybe he's acting out more because it's an election year. Bit of a chicken/egg issue that I wouldn't want to get stuck defending either side.

But the fact of the matter is that the Citizens United ruling grants private corporations the right to free speech. He can continue to use Twitter, but they've literally got the right to campaign against him, editorialize, shadowban, or straight up ban him. He could choose to follow the site's rules, or run off to Gab. But he's doing it for attention and his tantrums and Twitter's non-enforcement actions are getting him a lot of that.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

#348

Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

It's important context to note that Trump's tweets are the most widely publicized. As such it should be self evident as to why they would focus their limited resources to policing tweets such as his.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Twitter is well within the rights to do this, but I have seen tweets from blue check marks essentially calling for violence and Twitter didn't remove them. So, does that mean Twitter actually -supports- those view points now? If Twitter is going to police people, it needs to be across the board. Otherwise it's just a weird censorship that is targeting one person and can easily be seen as political. Everyone is applau…

The valley being an echo chamber doesn’t necessarily mean those implementing this have their heads in the sand. It can’t be all perfectly achieved, but to do nothing, as they were before, could be now determined to be a worse case than providing these annotations to flagrant misuse by the highest impact profile that they can’t do away with entirely.

The issue is that the rules are being enforced selectively. Just this week Twitter fact checked Trump's opinion on mail voter fraud by linking to other experts' opinions. It seems more like a move to influence the election rather than enforcing the rules.

Re: Twitter hides Donald Trump tweet for “glorifying violence”

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, in political science and sociology, one of the most common definitions of the state is that it possesses a monopoly on legitimate/lawful violence. Violence conducted via the military or police, according to regulation , is lawful. But violence conducted by citizens, or by members of the government or military that is not according to law/regulation, is not lawful. I'm not saying Twitter's drawing the line exact…

Wasn't Trump referring to stand your ground laws?

no, it's a clear reference to Walter Headly

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/where-does-phrase-...

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