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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by popinman322 »

Notorious_BLT wrote: post #285
2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Transparency can give bad actors a way to game and workaround the system.

So just to be clear, are you arguing that rules shouldn't be clearly laid out, because then people would be able to follow them?

Not taking a side on this, but there do exist people who exactly follow the letter of the law to circumvent the spirit of the law.

For example, people who harass others just within the confines of the rules so that they can't be banned from a community solely using the rules.

This is why we need humans to judge the spirit of the rules.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by hubbabubbarex »

Microsoft products are free ? No thanks. Microsoft partnered artist Marina Abramovich was enought for me. I can't use any product of this company that partnering with Satanist who paint with blood and Siemen .. spirit cooking .. no thanks. Neither should any of you too.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by tw04 »

m0xte wrote: post #319
spenczar5 wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No company would invest a massive amount of money in a duplicate product. I don't mean to be rude, but have you worked at a very large company like Microsoft or Amazon or Google? Redundant products are par for the course because of the byzantine internal politics and funding structures of big companies.

Big companies like Microsoft and Google like to burn products with little notice too.

Google sure, but Microsoft? The company that kept the Zune service alive for 4 years after the product was EOL and with a userbase likely measured in the hundreds of thousands?

https://www.wired.com/2015/09/what-to-do-with-your-zune-rip-...

The company who STILL supports 16-bit apps?

https://www.groovypost.com/howto/enable-16-bit-application-s...

Ya... I would hardly say MS is known for killing stuff early - more like they've spent years being ridiculed for carrying baggage forward for decades longer than anyone else.

MS might be bad at a lot of things, but I'd hardly say they're known for "burning products with little notice".

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by aschatten »

natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

This great news, I appreciate the free stuff, but on the other hand free stuff can be tricky as the company must make money. So I hope that your enterprise model will work.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by kerng »

m0xte wrote: post #319
spenczar5 wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> No company would invest a massive amount of money in a duplicate product. I don't mean to be rude, but have you worked at a very large company like Microsoft or Amazon or Google? Redundant products are par for the course because of the byzantine internal politics and funding structures of big companies.

Big companies like Microsoft and Google like to burn products with little notice too.

That is true for Google, but certainly not for Microsoft. Microsoft's support for legacy software is pretty amazing actually.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by binarymax »

The way I read the title and heading, it sounded like teams was now free.

This messaging is very confusing. Teams is not being made free, you need to pay $4 per user. A better message would be: "we're reducing your price to $4pp, and giving you access to more features."

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by mato »

natfriedman wrote: post #26

Hi HN, I'm the CEO of GitHub. Everyone at GitHub is really excited about this announcement, and I'm happy to answer any questions. We've wanted to make this change for the last 18 months, but needed our Enterprise business to be big enough to enable the free use of GitHub by the rest of the world. I'm happy to say that it's grown dramatically in the last year, and so we're able to make GitHub free for teams that don'…

Hi Nat. Just to clarify, do these pricing changes imply that users without a paid plan will no longer receive any e-mail support from GitHub?

Speaking as a long-time user, over the last 10(?) years I've only ever needed to reach out to support@ twice or so, both times with fairly obscure issues that were promptly dealt with -- thank you.

It'd be a shame if the implied change to "community support only" for free accounts means that free users no longer have any direct way to contact support.

Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by [deleted] »

jedieaston wrote: post #306
specialist wrote: post #34

What safe guards are in place to prevent Microsoft from using GitHub to glean competitive intelligence? Just like Facebook used Onavo. https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebooks-onavo-gives-social-me...

The same safeguards that are in place on Azure (which is used by 99% of Fortune 500s for either Office 365 or cloud stuff), which is to say, ethics, and the fact that if they tried it once most of those companies would reduce their spend with Microsoft immediately. Not to mention the government contracts.

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Re: GitHub is now free for teams

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Post by jonny_eh »

pc86 wrote: post #311
bhk wrote: post #250

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How is "game and workaround the system" different from "comply with policies"? Is compliance not the objective?

Compliance with the spirit is the objective. Sometimes the spirit and the letter differ for any number of reasons (many of which are completely reasonable). People tend to get pretty upset when someone is very clearly complying with the letter while flying in complete opposition to the spirit, and it's not always an easy fix.

That's why the letter of the law needs to be updated to better reflect the spirit. Imagine if police could arrest you, and keep you, without telling you why. That's something that society figured out a long time ago isn't healthy.
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