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U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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I'd rather they do that here, thanks

How? Sounds like their business models aren't viable in the US.

Producing software, in, say, Romania, and selling it in the US is a perfectly viable business model.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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This was the case for me.

I was looking to move from the UK.

US salaries were the highest, but it was too difficult to get in.

So I started looking in Canada and found a job in New Brunswick.

I like it here, but part of me still wishes I could have gotten into Texas instead.

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How? Sounds like their business models aren't viable in the US.

Producing software, in, say, Romania, and selling it in the US is a perfectly viable business model.

In which case the software shop is in Romania, not the US. Not sure your point.

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This is the problem, stock from a few years doesn't house my family or feed my kids. Stock to me is almost as fairly tales as it can be, the few times I received stock as part of my salary it basically evaporated. In the real life, to people that need money each month to survive, stock is a bad joke.

What do you mean? Unless you are living paycheck to paycheck stock is just as real as cash.

Or almost paycheck to paycheck, which is not as uncommon as one may think. And normally stock come with restrictions on when you can liquidate. This is basically money I don't have now and a promise in the future that may very well go wrong.

Re: U.S. immigration policy has been a boon for the tech industry in Canada

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post #341

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Producing software, in, say, Romania, and selling it in the US is a perfectly viable business model.

In which case the software shop is in Romania, not the US. Not sure your point.

If your goal is to employ more people in the US software industry, you've kind of shot yourself in the foot.

There are also good reasons to want to employ people who are 'closer to the client'. Plenty of places have engineers both in the US and elsewhere. Lots of companies just want to employ the best talent from wherever.

Make those things difficult though, and software is about the easiest industry to route the work abroad.

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As unfortunate as this is, I think this only applies to Indians and Chinese. I was surprised to see Yoluk did not want to bother applying to jobs in the US. I am a foreign person from ROW (Rest of the World) in the US studying with F1 visa and trying to immigrate here via employment based options. I have friends who also immigrated to Germany and Britain. The process is definitely easier and guaranteed there but for…

you seem to be naive. I'm actually on STEM OPT. you've read about people who got EB-2, but do you know those people ? EB-2 or O-1 visa usually require people with 10 years of experience and exceptional talent. e.g DHH shipping Ruby on Rails. But for the rest of us, your chances are with h1b, which is more luck than merit. And remember, with an H1B once a company sponsors you, you've difficulty transferring the h1b. It's almost as starting the whole process again. with h1b your salary is capped to pretty much what your company wants to pay you, not the market as you're pretty much their property. I'm one of the few people that has actually managed to get employed at 3 different places, while on STEM-OPT. And got my market rate pay, due to the fact I refused sponsorship. The US does have a point based immigration policy like Canada | Aus. they call it 'Marriage'. The government doesn't have to screen, you that much, their citizens do. That's why getting a green card via marriage is easiest out of everything. So yeah, my advise, find a gal | boy you want to marry while in college and get on with it. Otherwise, H1B is a non-starter.

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I keep being head hunted to work on SF/SV. And my reply is basically automatic and always the same: "Due to US external policy and cost of life I can't see it being financially practical to move. Although, I would gladly consider any remote position." I think the immigration complexity is the lesser problem there. My research based on housing, school, transport and food tells me it looks like absurdly expensive. To b…

No joke. My team has three branches: * Sunnyvale, CA * Bentonville, AR * Bangalore, India We regularly will gossip about best/worst aspects of each of them. My mind is blown at how much they have to pay to live in the greater SF area. 3-4k for rent on an apartment for a small family. My mortgage is 800 a month. A mortgage with a yard big enough for gardens, a bee hive, compost, a couple of trees, basketball goal, fen…

Did you "gossip" about pay? Despite my sky-high rent (although 1-bedroom apartments can certainly be had for much less than $3k) I'm financially better off in the bay area than I would be with any outside the bay area job offer I've gotten. My net-after-housing pay is higher here than any offer or salary range I've seen in places I'd want to move to like Oregon or Reno.

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Green cards are a joke. For some countries they are effectively impossible to get in your lifetime. That's why we have this H1B nonsense in the first place.

Depends how you look at it. The countries with the longest waits are the very ones who get the most green cards. Even if everyone from India was allowed to move to the front of the line, we'd simply end up with a very long wait for everyone.

It's an employment based GC not diversity based. The primary criteria should be how good the person is as an employee and not where they were born.

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My thoughts exactly.

As far as I can tell, this House-passed Bill has yet to pass the Senate: https://qz.com/india/1663752/indian-h-1b-holders-may-be-one-... https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/386... Therefore, someone from India can't just "start H1B to green card conversion process."

They can start the process, it just the process won't complete for a few decades :)

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I moved to Toronto, then to SF. Thought I'd also share my anecdata here. I used to make ~100k/yr CAD (75k/yr USD) when I was in TO around 6 years ago. I bought a house around 7 years ago for 550k. I did a remote stint for a Boulder company for a couple years (~120k/yr USD working from TO), then moved to SF (~200k/yr USD + ~100k/yr equity). I'm a bit out of the loop w/ TO salaries nowadays, but your 170k CAD definitel…

You can easily find a room in a house for rent between $1000-1600 in SF. Far better than a "bunkbed". Just check craigslist. But hey, everyone loves to knock expensive SF housing. 28k/yr for preschool in SF is on the high end. That is not the median. Please re-do all your prices with the median, not your handpicked most expensive version.

You have to be careful using craigslist to assess prices. In the cities I've lived, ALL of the cheap ones are scams. They may run half or less the going rates, and promise way more for your money than the cheap end of the market should be.
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