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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by scarejunba »

fiblye wrote: post #325
humblebee wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't remember the website, but I ran across one on hacker news a while ago that had the best cookie popover I've ever seen. It floated over from the left hand side of the page. Had simple and clean UX allowing for user configuration of cookies. Felt a little more like a cookie control panel than a popup disclaimer. Allowed the user to select which cookies to allow with a small description of what they did. Wish I…

Sounds like something users want. Unfortunately, that’s not what most website owners want. They want to be as annoying as possible so that you smash “agree” just to get it over with.

As a user, I want it in the User Agent. I don't even know what the point of the bloody notification is. Set a cookie and redirect and see if you get it back if you want to know if I'm going to preserve your shit. Don't ask me this crap.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by frabcus »

p1necone wrote: post #339
atoav wrote: post #338

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Important point: GDPR allows you to use strictly necessary cookies without asking for consent. So if you hate to put cookie banners onto a site, just stick with storing only strictly necessary cookies without data that identifies your users and you are fine. The problem is, many people don’t even know what cookies their own site stores with their users and they store a ton of tracking cookies on their user’s devices.

Isn't the whole point of cookies to identify users (for session persistence and the like, not just ads)? If you're not identifying users what are you achieving?

Some sites store local settings in cookies, that the user has explicitly set.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Avamander »

zozbot234 wrote: post #316
butz wrote: post #303

With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

> Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean. Bring back P3P, with GDPR acting as the enforcement part (which was quite lacking when P3P was first proposed)? Might work quite nicely, and the support is in browsers already, it just tends to be ignored.

I've thought exactly the same and I think now might exactly be the right time to bring it back. However can the client tell to the server if it consents or not? Second problem is of course that malicious or lazy site admins won't use P3P just that they can annoy users to click Accept.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by pnako »

humblebee wrote: post #319
butz wrote: post #303

With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

I don't remember the website, but I ran across one on hacker news a while ago that had the best cookie popover I've ever seen. It floated over from the left hand side of the page. Had simple and clean UX allowing for user configuration of cookies. Felt a little more like a cookie control panel than a popup disclaimer. Allowed the user to select which cookies to allow with a small description of what they did. Wish I…

keygen.sh does that

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by arkh »

p1necone wrote: post #339
atoav wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Important point: GDPR allows you to use strictly necessary cookies without asking for consent. So if you hate to put cookie banners onto a site, just stick with storing only strictly necessary cookies without data that identifies your users and you are fine. The problem is, many people don’t even know what cookies their own site stores with their users and they store a ton of tracking cookies on their user’s devices.

Isn't the whole point of cookies to identify users (for session persistence and the like, not just ads)? If you're not identifying users what are you achieving?

Storing the language they want to use or other configuration.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by amelius »

Password fields are broken in Ubuntu 18.04 (Gnome Flashback Metacity), when using Firefox's Sync feature, (and without add-ons).

This was a problem in recent versions, and is still a problem in version 72.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by flukus »

ln_00 wrote: post #279

Finally. The notifications popup is seriously annoying.

It seems like even adding it as a feature was a terrible idea, it's an example of how users needs are no longer the driving force behind web browsers. Was it supposed to replace RSS or something?

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by amelius »

enlyth wrote: post #311
butz wrote: post #303

With notification spam fixed, how about tackling cookie banners spam next? Let's work on a standard to allow user to set their preferred cookie settings level once in browser UI and keep websites clean.

How would you detect if something is a cookie dialog in a standardized way? It's pretty much impossible as all of them are custom code with different layouts / selectors / sequence of actions you need to take to opt out.

Not sure if it's been done already but you could use Deep Learning to detect cookie dialogs ...

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by pier25 »

barryvan wrote: post #324
pier25 wrote: post #320

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Firefox should include a setting to disable all requests for notifications much like they give you total control to block autoplay.

It does! https://blog.mozilla.org/firefox/no-notifications/

Finally!

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by seaish »

floatingsmoke wrote: post #336
smcleod wrote: post #298

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A workaround if you really want that might be to set a bettertouchtool hotkey mapping pinch to CMD+/- when in the Firefox app.

I actually mean double tap zoom that zooms to HTML element that your cursor on. Amazing feature for browsing experience. Chromium has this feature since a lot.

This extension does that mostly. The only problem is that it zooms linearly, so when you get closer it takes more input to scale the same amount. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-touch-z...

Also read the description: there's an option to enable it, but for me at least, it was too buggy to use.

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