Amazon’s Consumer Business Turned Off Final Oracle Database

Post by technofiend » Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 10:42 PM UTC

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> Amazon's predatory instincts are pointed inwards and downwards, towards employees and vendors... the crying software engineers and all other things I hear about them are about running an internally facing extraction economy... The squeeze is being put on those who draw a paycheck (or at least, a profit) from Amazon I know 10+ software engineers at Amazon, including people in their early 30s making close to half-a-m…

It's the same way with my company. In the rare situation I see my employer mentioned on HN, I can't even bother reading the comment. It's all so overwhelmingly negative. Not just on the management, but on the employees as well. HN's perception of the company who signs my paychecks is so wildly different from my own perspective as an employee there that I have a hard time believing anyone on HN who talks about a negat…

Post by AtlasBarfed » Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 10:43 PM UTC

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In the same vein of oracle trying the one-ring-to-bind them, RDS is amazing on many levels, but AWS is all in on database lockin with their customers. RDS probably affords enough flexibility to get your data out, but Dynamo... that's a different story.

How? There is literally a service dedicated to migrating databases into and off of AWS

Post by democracy » Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 10:48 PM UTC

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ATG Dynamo. Brings back some memories. It was actually a really smart platform that was killed by the vastly inferior J2EE. Spring is basically the same premise as Dynamo and is still going strong.

J2EE reminds me of another blast from the past, a contract around the time for Java (Apache) Struts [1], boilerplate hell and not fun. Fun fact: Java (Apache) Struts 2 [2] is a vulnerability mess. It was used by Equifax on the breach: > Struts 2 has a history of critical security bugs, many tied to its use of OGNL technology; some vulnerabilities can lead to arbitrary code execution. In October 2017, it was reported…

Post by AtlasBarfed » Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 11:07 PM UTC

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Amazon IT employees are carrot-dangles a rolling set of future stock and other money, but as it stands now almost every new hire won't see that money. Amazon will get what they can out of them, and then mark them underperforming and fire them before it pays out any money. Some of the best people I know that have gone to work there have been subjected to this. After cycles of this, the only way to survive is to backst…

The console sucks because it's done by the individual back-end service teams who have no idea about UX or front-end coding, and don't coordinate with each other or any cross-service owners of the console.

Post by chrisdhoover » Tue, Oct 15, 2019, 11:10 PM UTC

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Amazon is a slightly annoying company that I rarely root for, but Oracle is a predatory company whose customer relations strategy seems to actively involve litigating them as a default assumption. Amazon is considered a paragon of IT, so their expulsion of Oracle is a useful tool at the CIO/CTO level of "nobody ever got fired for IBM" level of reasoning. Unfortunately, AWS is becoming the new IBM in that reasoning. G…

I don’t think most people would view the companies that way. Amazon is taking on mom & pops, warehouse employees, etc. Oracle might be super aggressive, but their targets are generally larger businesses and often huge corporations that are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves.