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Is that from the Bible?
Does not sound like anything from the Bible I have ever read. Theres other commentary on this HN post about the many meanings of the name though.
I'm amazed that Perl is still around. I personally find it the least readable language that I've ever used, and that includes a lot of languages. But some people really seem to love it, for reasons a bit beyond me.
Take time to really grok Perl and you may find the soundbite swipes at Perl don't make sense any longer.
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I think this is more connect with the lack of familiarity with the language ecosystem than anything. I avoid tools written in node.js, even if installing is somewhat easy, most because I don't really know how to manage them later. Btw, nowadays with a modern pip a simple `pip install --user package-name` works.
No, it's due to two reasons. Devs don't ever think about who might be interested in using their tools and just assume that everyone who might want to use their work has just as much knowledge as they have in their particular mineshaft. Second, the creators of the language didn't bother thinking about how people are supposed to ship software when they were dreaming up the language. Languages are cool, maintenance and…
What utility does Perl provide in a world dominated by python?
1. Raku treats math in a manner that wouldn't surprise a mathematician. Or grade school student, for that matter. Witness:
$ python3 -c 'print(0.3 == 0.1 + 0.2)'
False
$ ruby -e 'puts 0.3 == 0.1 + 0.2'
false
$ perl6 -e 'say 0.3 == 0.1 + 0.2'
True
2. Concurrency is a language goal in Raku and I think that's notable, compared to Python. Parallelism, concurrency, and asynchrony including multi-core support.[1]
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>How familiar are you with Perl, and how much have you used it? It's what my company's entire code base is written in. So every hour of every work day for the past 6 months. >To me it looks really no uglier than any other mainstream language, and one could easily make the argument that any other mainstream language you care to name is uglier in some of its own ways. It's no one thing, but a bunch of little things tha…
> while ( ) { ($h{$_}++ == 1) && push (@outputarray, $_); }; That's a business culture thing. If you set the expectation, that it's okay to do that, people might do that. If you set the expectation that it's not okay, people shouldn't. The equivalent C and Python are likely just as ugly (given that the equivalent python might be using a far too complex range statement or put it on a single line using : and ;, which i…
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It must be time to take my Ruby skills and go and learn this. Is it really as easy as it sounds like it should be for a lazy, dynamic-typing sort of Ruby dev to pick up?
If you have never worked with a strongly typed language before there might be some getting used to that, but any pain is well worth it. Catching all your mistakes at compile time and not at runtime is so amazing. Oh and it’s literally 100x faster than Ruby in some cases.
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When someone says they want to work in Perl6/Raku, they likely have vastly different problems than someone using Erlang/Elixer. There is overlap of course (both general purpose), but I can't imagine using Erlang for scripting, while Raku is first class here.
I'm trying to understand, what kind of scripting requires first-class concurrency that isn't fulfilled by say Python?
Python as a language can support parallelism via threads, and CPython as an implementation can via multiprocessing, but those are both very low level abstractions; Raku has higher level abstractions which allow much more succinct expression of parallel operations.
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> while ( ) { ($h{$_}++ == 1) && push (@outputarray, $_); }; That's a business culture thing. If you set the expectation, that it's okay to do that, people might do that. If you set the expectation that it's not okay, people shouldn't. The equivalent C and Python are likely just as ugly (given that the equivalent python might be using a far too complex range statement or put it on a single line using : and ;, which i…
There's always if is too cryptic. I think what most fail to grok, if they've only glanced at Perl, is context. Above all Perl is a context-based language. It's the opposite of Python's spell-everything-out approach but just as valid. Perl also excels at whipupitude.
Some people will look at this as evidence that Perl should be relegated to one-liners, but I find immense usefulness in combining my more engineered aspects with one-liners, and providing myself with a "project evaluator". What I do is create a simple bash script which just calls perl and sets the library include path to the project lib, includes a few useful things to always have (Path::Tiny, Try::Tiny, Data::Dumper, etc), and passed the rest of the args to Perl. Using DBIx::Class for SQL manipulation and/or using complex API client libraries I've written combined with the abilities of perl to do things easily as a one-liner is amazing.
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I guess it depends on what you're comfortable in? I myself have tons of Elixir scripts that I use to automate much of my life. It's replaced ruby as my go-to for one-off scripts.
I didn't know that Elixir had such a low-threshold for one-off programs. Have you tried Crystal? Both are on my list of programming languages to look into next, together with Elm, Reason and Zig.
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I didn't know that Elixir had such a low-threshold for one-off programs. Have you tried Crystal? Both are on my list of programming languages to look into next, together with Elm, Reason and Zig.
Crystal is wonderful for one-off programs in my experience. Elixir had a long startup time for one-off scripts in my experience, but Elixir’s syntax is still one of my favorites for scripting.
Compared with
time crystal eval