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Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by _underfl0w_ »

lazyjones wrote: post #118
sxates wrote: post #5

Really excited to finally get Spotify integration, that's huge. Also hoping they install WiFi at superchargers so you can watch youtube/Netflix while charging there. Not sure where else I'd use that feature.

Imagine how much bandwidth they'd save if Superchargers with WiFi offered the latest software version cached locally at full WiFi speed to the cars...

Imagine how easily one could spread a fun new kind of worm by compromising an unattended firmware download mechanism if one were so inclined. Food for thought.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by mlindner »

tw04 wrote: post #242
leesec wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also owner of a TM3. Best car I've ever owned by a lot. People sure do get mad about Blutooth. Also, at least they're able to have a 'software direction'. Not aware of any other manufacturer who provides anywhere near this level of OTA upgrades. And obviously the autopilot team is a different one than the people installing games. Chill.

Right, because those vendors were smart enough to add support for Android auto and carplay and leave it to Google and apple. I have a model y on order, but if they can't figure out infotainment soon I'll likely cancel it. I spend way too much time driving to deal with garbage infotainment.

And those other cars also have postage stamp sized displays that don't let you watch Netflix nor Hulu nor live tv. Nor do they allow steering wheel integration to racing games.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by muzika »

w8vY7ER wrote: post #156
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #53

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Is it a joyous experience when you have to wait 1 month+ for basic replacement parts to arrive? How about when your consumer grade touch panel dies from heat and vibration?

Don't know, my experience has directly contradicted this popular narrative. I think, perhaps, these experiences are less frequent than public outlets suggest.

Similar experience here. No issues with getting parts.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by mlindner »

steelframe wrote: post #202
pmarreck wrote: post #152

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Fair enough, sometimes the food selection is limited to fast food or fast-food-like.

The one time I took my Model X on a road trip (before I sold it and bought a PHEV), one of the stops was in Lima, Montana. The greasy spoon restaurant in that dirt parking lot was... an experience.

To be fair, you're stopping in literally middle of nowhere in a city with a population of 221[1]. I wouldn't expect much.

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lima,_Montana

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by killjoywashere »

coder543 wrote: post #258
tidepod12 wrote: post #109

Bit of a bad look that the video clip showing Smart Summon shows the Tesla driving the wrong direction down a one-way lane... This might be a situation where Tesla Smart Summon works only when Tesla's are still rare. In areas where they are more common, I imagine a traffic jam of confused driverless Teslas trying to move past each other but get stuck in a small lane like the one in the video.

Look carefully, it isn't going the wrong way: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Kennedy+Park+Pl,+Californi... It's just a really bad parking lot design. Regardless, Smart Summon doesn't currently care about things like directionality in a parking lot. This version doesn't try to do anything fancy like reading markings on the pavement. The app will show you on a satellite map the route that the car is planning to go,…

one bit per frame for 20+ sensors. That is some weak supervision.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by mlindner »

FireBeyond wrote: post #282
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #2

"Those using Smart Summon must remain responsible for the car and monitor it and its surroundings at all times. " Does this come with an "oh god, stop!" button of some sort?

Witness the contradiction right in Tesla's own material: > You can use this while being distracted by a fussy child[1]. > [1] You must be paying full attention to the car.

Look, if you don't like the car, you can just not buy it. Why piss on other people's experiences?

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by tw04 »

mlindner wrote: post #342
tw04 wrote: post #242

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Right, because those vendors were smart enough to add support for Android auto and carplay and leave it to Google and apple. I have a model y on order, but if they can't figure out infotainment soon I'll likely cancel it. I spend way too much time driving to deal with garbage infotainment.

And those other cars also have postage stamp sized displays that don't let you watch Netflix nor Hulu nor live tv. Nor do they allow steering wheel integration to racing games.

Since I spend exactly 0 hours a day sitting in my car doing nothing, Netflix an Hulu aren't on my list of useful features.

If for some reason I'm not driving and I'm still sitting in the car, I'm probably on a conference call.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by saalweachter »

SECProto wrote: post #329
saalweachter wrote: post #328

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That's called a SAFE FOLLOWING DISTANCE.

> That's called a SAFE FOLLOWING DISTANCE. Hi. Safe following distance is the distance required to safely stop at whatever speed you are going. At a typical speed of 90km/hr (that's usually when this "feature" gets engaged - slowing me to 10km/hr under the limit because that's what someone in front of me is doing), the safe stopping distance is around 80-90 meters (perception+braking in good conditions). The shortest…

The LONGEST following distance maintained by Toyota's adaptive cruise control is 50m (at 80 km/h). The short and medium settings are 30m and 40m.

So either (a) the car you drove was defective or (b) you are radically misjudging your following distance. I know you are inclined to assume the former, but keep in mind that humans are terrible at judging distances when moving at high speeds, and most people leave way too little space between them and the car in front of them.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by revscat »

rainyMammoth wrote: post #338
revscat wrote: post #332

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This view about the inevitability of LIDAR seems to become increasingly anachronistic as time goes on. I have autopilot. Two nights ago it drove me from the entrance ramp to the exit ramp for my destination, approximately 30 miles, and I didn’t have to intervene once. The route involved three different highways, two overpasses, requisite lane changes, and even a brief stint through a traffic jam where it had to merge…

Everyone agrees that you can do 99.99% of the driving without a LIDAR. That's exactly what you did yesterday in easy conditions (Highway driving is the easiest environment by far). The issue if you want to go to FULL self driving is that you need to go to 99.99999% of reliability which a lot of experts agree you will not be able to do without Lidar. Here is the issue: Video cameras will work properly most of the time…

Which arguable, and regardless is not the point under discussion. GP claimed that Tesla is behind. This is factually untrue.
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