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Re: Update on AB5

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Post by JetSpiegel » Thu, Sep 12, 2019, 11:49 PM UTC

xmprt wrote: post #282

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #157

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> At least for me that's the only reason I use Uber. If they are, as they claim, just a lead-gen platform, I'd rather call a taxi. At least taxis are legally bound to provide me a certain level of service. Most of us don’t have such great experiences with taxis as you do. “Legally bound” still leaves a lot of wiggle room for really crappy experiences.

Not to mention that it's much harder to enforce something that's legally bound. If they give you a crappy experience, the only way you can do anything about it is by reporting it to the government (suing them?) which is usually a painful process. And if your case is even heard, you'll need evidence proving it.

As opposed to the unregulated jungle of Uber, where you can legally pound sand. How is the unregulated market better?

Re: Update on AB5

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Post by bscphil » Fri, Sep 13, 2019, 1:07 AM UTC

aianus wrote: post #272

bscphil wrote: post #117

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> Part of me thinks Uber could get away with this if they just relaxed some of their current driver policies (e.g. more limited penalties for cancellations). The issue is whether doing so would drastically deteriorate the quality of the service for riders. I'm going to go with yes. The only times I use ride sharing services (Lyft, not Uber) are in high-density situations like getting to and from the airport. Dependin…

This comment doesn't make sense to me (as a part time Uber driver myself). First, the driver doesn't see your destination until he picks you up. Second, there is no competition or reason to rush to "mash" the button, the ride request is exclusive to you as a driver for the 10 seconds that you see it.

> This comment doesn't make sense to me (as a part time Uber driver myself).

As I noted in the comment, I use Lyft, not Uber, so I can't say if it works differently. What I can say (and what other people in this thread have confirmed) is that it does happen surprisingly regularly.

> First, the driver doesn't see your destination until he picks you up.

If that's the case, it's easy to see how even on Uber a driver might call you to find out where you want to go, and then tell you to cancel because they don't want to go there.

Re: Update on AB5

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Post by ixtli » Mon, Sep 16, 2019, 2:24 PM UTC

wavepruner wrote: post #173

ixtli wrote: post #162

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> if you have time to protest, you're probably not that poor i dont know what protests you've been attending but the one's ive helped at for laundry and warehouse workers were filled with people that were not only supporting families on minimum wage but also contained people who were here on visas. in america you're always taking a risk by protesting an employer.

It's all relative. To me anyone who can work full time is not that poor. But I understand why many would view that as poverty.

Minimum wage is not, on its own, enough to afford average rent anywhere in America. If you're making minimum wage and have no other access to support: you're poor.

This is, ultimately the major reason why the status quo never changes here: people dont want to acknowledge their class.