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Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by piyush_soni »

TuringTest wrote: post #286
piyush_soni wrote: post #183

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I'm currently using Firefox on all devices as my primary browser, but there is a single feature that I've gotten used to in Chrom* browsers on mobile - 'pull down to refresh' - that looks indispensable to me, and I'm planning to move to Brave on mobile just because of that (already replaced Chrome with Brave on Desktop as my secondary browser). Yes, there are add-ons to do that on mobile too, but they are all inconsi…

There's also Reload in Address Bar, which I prefer. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reload-in-add... Or you can use the "double tap the dots menu" trick.

Thanks. The 'Double tapping dots menu' trick is neat indeed, sometimes we don't figure these things on our own :).

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by dwaltrip »

kevinh wrote: post #144
dwaltrip wrote: post #120

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Is it unethical to avoid looking at billboards? If not, what if I had a special pair of glasses that obscured such billboards or other physical advertising? It's not possible today, but not that hard to imagine in the near future. How are these situations different from blocking ads on the web?

To my knowledge, billboards don't fund roads. Unless they are the exclusive source of revenue for roads, the situations aren't really comparable.

Ah, that is a good point. They aren't comparable on that aspect.

I would argue they are still comparable in terms of "autonomy of attention".

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by mtarnovan »

olah_1 wrote: post #274
tomaskafka wrote: post #261

A simple guide to choosing your browser: Does it make money by showing you ads? Chrome: Yes Brave: Yes Firefox: No If yes, then they need to track your behavior in detail. I'm sure you don't deserve to be tracked.

For me, the guide is more like: Does it render text in an ugly manner? Chrome: No Safari: No Firefox: Yes The unfortunate thing is that many Firefox users prefer the Firefox text rendering. There’s no solution to fix this (I’ve researched a lot). It’s just a divide in the users based upon preferences.

I don't know why parent was downvoted. This is on top of the list of things that kept me from switching back to FF.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by potlato »

vorticalbox wrote: post #252
lemagedurage wrote: post #189

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I think "Chrome but faster" would convince a mainstream audience pretty well, even though they might not be aware that they're not going to notice the milliseconds.

if you're moving from Firefox to brave you do notice the speed increase. FF on my work laptop (i5, 16GB of ram) and my s8 is significantly slower that brave.

It's been a gift to me, since I really just can't help but install extension after extension and FF is just not good at that in my experience (plus the selection is narrower but I don't put that on FF). Another thing is that Brave has the Chrome url search which I've come to realize is actually pretty central to me, I just can't stand the 'prepending a letter' type search. Overall it's the closest I've felt to chrome with the stated goal of addressing the the primary reason I feel uncomfortable with chrome, so I'm happy for now.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by potlato »

jefftk wrote: post #312
tomaskafka wrote: post #262

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Try switching once more, and turn on Webrender this time - it's still beta, but I had no issues and it made my FF Chrome-fast.

Several reasons for not switching back, some idiosyncratic: * I trust Chrome more than Firefox on security * I'm used to Chrome's debugging tools, and would need to learn Firefox's * I use the Chrome password manager, and it would be annoying to switch If Firefox were enough better I would still switch, but at this point my understanding is it's more like "Firefox is no longer slower than Chrome" not "Firefox is a st…

That's understandable though I imagine it's unlikely we'll see something like that ever again, right? To me it seems kinda like how race car engineers used to be able to discover some major advancement in their engines that would give them wins for a few years but nowadays it's much more homogenous and worked upon for much less significant gain. I don't know much about the deeper webdev stuff though so who knows, but it seems like that could only ever really possible with a shift in a browser trying some novel shift in architecture.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by potlato »

Analemma_ wrote: post #143
codehalo wrote: post #90

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None of what you said is true. I'm puzzled by the constant lies and FUD spread here against Brave. What exactly is the agenda?

There's no agenda, just proper reasoning. Think about it in terms of Bayesian probability: it's a cryptocurrency product, and pretty much everything in the crypto space is a scam, so right off the bat when you hear about Brave, before you even know anything your prior probability that it's a scam is 95%. Then they got busted 'keeping the money' and not telling the creators, and the posterior jumps to 99.5%. I know th…

If your proper reasoning involves the premise: "it's a cryptocurrency product, and pretty much everything in the crypto space is a scam," you might want to adjust want you call "proper reasoning."

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by potlato »

Yizahi wrote: post #230
fouc wrote: post #119

The discussion in this thread makes me wonder if Brave is a good browser to recommend to friends & family. The widespread usage of Chrome was probably largely in part due to folks like us recommending it to friends & family.

Ask yourself a question - why would you do that? For privacy reasons and to avoid future Googlenet monopoly? Then using Chrome mod instead of Chrome solves nothing.

Because even if we're being not generous, the difference between natively blocking even some ads/trackers and disentangling from Google services in any way is clearly better than not. Would you flip a coin every time if an unmodifiable computer offered only Chrome and Brave?

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Post by mindcandy »

Frondo wrote: post #337
mindcandy wrote: post #330

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You never said it. A reasonable person would infer it. I spend too much time arguing with trolls on the internet for fun. I don't think you intended to, but your post uses a lot of techniques widely used by trolls such as: linking to the complicated, full explanation while telling an edited, "technically true" version that can be misinterpreted by a low-effort reader. Having an escape hatch is very important to them.…

This is preposterous. This kind of tone-policing doesn't belong here. A charitable read of what he said doesn't "tick off a checklist of a troll". The time to back down was a few posts ago.

I was over-sensitive. Dancing with highly refined trolls on other platforms does that to a person.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by Dylan16807 »

Analemma_ wrote: post #143
codehalo wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of what you said is true. I'm puzzled by the constant lies and FUD spread here against Brave. What exactly is the agenda?

There's no agenda, just proper reasoning. Think about it in terms of Bayesian probability: it's a cryptocurrency product, and pretty much everything in the crypto space is a scam, so right off the bat when you hear about Brave, before you even know anything your prior probability that it's a scam is 95%. Then they got busted 'keeping the money' and not telling the creators, and the posterior jumps to 99.5%. I know th…

What they had to fix was not "keeping the money", it was a bad UI that implied creators had accounts.
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