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Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by Typhon »

baddox wrote: post #176
Typhon wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's an idea : do the 0.1 version by crawling and indexing the web in a perfectly standard way, apply the usual, run-of-the-mill search algorithms, then diff it against the Bing/Google/etc first results which will be biased towards commercial stuff. The higher a page is among their results, the higher the probability that it's commercial in some sense.

So...you want to build a Google except each query starts on the last page of results?

No, it's just a simple heuristic to get started.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by bscphil »

dheera wrote: post #54
corodra wrote: post #50

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Those are the absolute worst. A recipe with someone's jackass life story for 2000 words. You start to wonder if it's even a recipe at all. You have to scroll for a good minute, hoping you didn't miss the recipe. Then come the ads that reformat the size of the page. Everything jumps around and you have to rescroll again. Exactly why I stick to cookbooks in the past year or so. More and more, "fuck the internet", long…

One thing about cookbooks is that the massive barrier to actually publishing and distributing is a natural filter for credibility; most cookbooks have tried-and-true recipes and are either authentic or a genuinely good adaptation by a skilled chef author. The internet is full of garbage recipes that either just don't work, inauthentic, and uncreative, all at the same time. As far as murdering trees go -- let's not fo…

My strategy is to bookmark the sites of the people who have good published cookbooks. You have a much better chance of getting good recipes from someone who knows what they are doing, as you said, but you also get the additional convenience and variation from being able to search online.

In my experience, these sites tend to be less spammy too, but there's certainly variation there too.

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Post by clairity »

jacques_chester wrote: post #81
caiocaiocaio wrote: post #14

Google any recipe, and there are at least 5 paragraphs (usually a lot more) of copy that no one will ever read, and isn't even meant for human consumption. Google "How to learn x", and you'll usually get copy written by people who know nothing about the subject, and maybe browsed Amazon for 30 minutes as research. Real, useful results that used to be the norm for Google are becoming more and more rare as time goes by…

> Google any recipe, and there are at least 5 paragraphs (usually a lot more) of copy that no one will ever read, and isn't even meant for human consumption. And here I just thought people were basically self-absorbed wankers. My most recent impression: "I first learned about this recipe from my dog's aunt who was a lenape indian during the pre-cambrian era and she something something memories of childhood blah blah…

that really made me laugh - i'm glad i had no liquids in my mouth at the time. =)

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Post by newsbinator »

tlack wrote: post #226
cottonseed wrote: post #36

I just wish search engines would let me block sites. There are maybe a dozen SEO land grabs in my domain that are trashing my search results and provide no value.

I'm trying that, and upvoting, on my little search engine project: https://glorp.co

The concept is interesting. The search I tried wasn't helpful: https://glorp.co/Search/vue%20vs%20svelte

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by zbentley »

nickfromseattle wrote: post #311

This is 100% how search engine optimization works, the consultants are correct. As a marketer, when I search for marketing information on Google 70%-90% of the time all of the stuff on the 1st page generally isn't teaching me anything I didn't already know. But as someone who does this exact thing, I know how expensive good content is - hiring an author to write 3,000 words of valuable information for a reader can co…

But then the people writing high quality content end up drowned in the deluge, and the market drives itself towards the local minima of quality. That is very, very fucked up.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by tlack »

newsbinator wrote: post #344
tlack wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm trying that, and upvoting, on my little search engine project: https://glorp.co

The concept is interesting. The search I tried wasn't helpful: https://glorp.co/Search/vue%20vs%20svelte

Thanks for the feedback! I see a few interesting results on the page that seem relevant to the query (like the jsreport.io link). What did you hope to see that you didn't?

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by nunez »

theturtletalks wrote: post #21
caiocaiocaio wrote: post #14

Google any recipe, and there are at least 5 paragraphs (usually a lot more) of copy that no one will ever read, and isn't even meant for human consumption. Google "How to learn x", and you'll usually get copy written by people who know nothing about the subject, and maybe browsed Amazon for 30 minutes as research. Real, useful results that used to be the norm for Google are becoming more and more rare as time goes by…

So true. Whenever I look up something now I just add Reddit afterwards. It's been working well so far, but I guess that can be manipulated as well.

site:reddit.com; after every search!

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by throwaway8879 »

jrumbut wrote: post #288
dheera wrote: post #89

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> The best cooking tutorials are barely translated Youtube videos. Yeah I love those. The "random grandma with a gopro" tutorials always work, modulo language barrier. The video editing is crap and you sometimes have to keep fast forwarding while stuff is cooking but the recipes are good.

Could you give us a link to a great random grandma with a gopro video? I have been to what I thought was deep in the Internet recipe mines and never saw this.

You may like the "Pasta with Italian Grannies channel" channel. I recently discovered it and it's the best.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by nunez »

lostctown wrote: post #121

I append "reddit" to any query not meant for a productive task. Except now the internet is mostly reddit for me, which kinda bums me out. Especially given the new js-heavy design. In 2019, if I want reliable search about something I know nothing about I must first search on google, then try again with "reddit" appended, then change www.reddit.com to old.reddit.com, then parse through what are often questionable answe…

Search the site using the site: operator to get better results; consultanta can find a way to SEO those kinds of queries.

Re: The internet is an SEO landfill

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Post by nunez »

joshwcomeau wrote: post #5

Great intro, but where’s the actual article? (Also it’s pretty harsh to say that it takes “little talent” to become an SEO expert. Like all industries, there are charlatans selling snake oil, but there are experts who have invested a lot of time in developing their skill sets, and it’s not nice to be so dismissive.)

Lol when I thought I got to the actual content, I was one paragraph away from the article ending
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