Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users • Hacker News Board

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by SquareWheel » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:10 AM UTC

seangrant wrote: post #331

SquareWheel wrote: post #318

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Manifest V3 still supports ad blocking. I don't know why so many in this thread think it doesn't.

Rule-based ad blocking limited to 30k, as stated in the article. That's why people are upset.

It has the advantage of being faster, with the disadvantage of being less dynamic. Existing rule lists will need to be slimmed down. That's not necessarily a bad thing, because all they ever do is grow without being pruned of old rules.

It seems to me people are upset because they read the title and misinterpreted it to me that adblocking as a whole is going away. But to be fair, even the article itself does a poor job of clarifying that.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by nanny » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:11 AM UTC

ptmcc wrote: post #317

bradstewart wrote: post #93

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I've been using Firefox for the last two weeks or so. It's fine, but noticeably slower (on a 2018 MacBook Pro) when opening new tabs and especially dragging tabs into new windows. It also seems to get stuck resolving DNS sometimes, which is probably an artifact of the corporate network, but Chrome doesn't have that problem.

> It also seems to get stuck resolving DNS sometimes, which is probably an artifact of the corporate network, but Chrome doesn't have that problem. OMG I thought I was the only one running into this exact same problem! This has been a deal killer for me.

Switch your DNS servers (I suggest 1.1.1.1). Chrome uses Google's DNS servers by default, they're probably just faster than whatever you're using.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by anonymous5133 » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:11 AM UTC

notatoad wrote: post #260

Not only is this enough to get me switching back to firefox, it's enough that my next laptop purchase won't be another chromebook the internet without an adblocker is simply not usable for me.

If google moves forward with this we should all start randomly clicking on ads until advertisers start to realize that they're basically throwing their money away on advertising that doesn't work :) Let's hit 'em where it hurts.

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Post by fencepost » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:12 AM UTC

And this pops up on the same evening that Google chooses to roll out unblockable advertising in Android System App "Duo" in the form of an unsolicited video message from Virat Kohli, apparently the lead player on an Indian cricket team?

Way to work that Lily Tomlin "Ernestine" vibe Google.

Edit: also, "Oh, we're so sorry that our 'security' update is going to gut something that users love but our accountants hate (for anyone else). This is completely an unintended consequence."

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Post by anonymous5133 » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:13 AM UTC

brianzelip wrote: post #274

A good time to suggest everyone here commit to using FireFox and DuckDuckGo. You can manage, even with any initial bumps. It’s ok.

I will start doing this.

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Post by misterdoubt » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:14 AM UTC

brianzelip wrote: post #274

A good time to suggest everyone here commit to using FireFox and DuckDuckGo. You can manage, even with any initial bumps. It’s ok.

Yeah, I made the same switch a few months ago and thought I'd need time to get used to it...

Nope, they're perfectly functional systems. Just browse and search.

Netscape -> Opera -> Firefox (in beta) -> Chrome (early beta) -> Firefox

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Post by halter73 » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:16 AM UTC

benatkin wrote: post #312

Aeolun wrote: post #235

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Ostensibly Microsofts browser team is the size of Googles’. They could just fork once and never look back. Merging incompatible changes seems like a win compared to doing everything themselves.

That's what Apple did by forking KHTML and starting the Webkit project. KHTML is still maintained and both KHTML and Webkit can be used in KDE.

And even more recently with Blink forking WebKit.

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Post by thegeekpirate » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:16 AM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #76

roca wrote: post #62

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You should try reporting a bug. Session Restore always works for me, and I'm on Nightly!

I can't replicate it so I can't report it. :( It works like 95% of the time, but that 5% is just really irritating.

Just so you don't feel crazy, I've had this happen multiple times as well (on both Linux and Windows).

In fact, it's one of the larger reasons (tabs constantly crashing is the largest one atm) I leave Firefox for side jobs instead of being relied upon as my main browser.

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Post by whatshisface » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:17 AM UTC

ljm wrote: post #255

ronsor wrote: post #121

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People depend on Chromium/Blink because there's no other options. You can't really embed Gecko, and WebKit (Safari) can sometimes lack desirable web platform features.

Yet still, we have Rust (a phenomenally innovative programming language) that was conceived, as far as I understand it, to build a new rendering engine. I've not checked in on Servo for some time but they were going for full on ACID2 compliance with CSS, meeting the specs for HTML...A lot of that work became Electrolysis and then Quantum. Mozilla has been a serious lab for innovation without the conflict of interest…

Mozilla get a lot of money from Google. They're not totally independent.

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Post by fencepost » Thu, May 30, 2019, 2:17 AM UTC

ravenstine wrote: post #323

esturk wrote: post #311

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My issue with Firefox is essentially one bug where they refuse to fix. In private mode, previously closed tabs are, for some reasons, restorable. This doesn't happen for Safari or Chrome.

How do you make that happen? I can't seem to reproduce it.

I believe this is within the same Private Browsing session, so if you're closing the window (default behavior with the last tab I think) you may not be seeing it.