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Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by DanTheManPR » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:13 PM UTC

mlejva wrote: post #288

Interesting to see so many people here prefer smaller phones over big ones. I was using iPhone 5, 5S, and SE for over 6 years. This Christmas I switched to XR and I couldn't be happier. I feel like there are so many productivity things I can do on my phone that were annoying before. I use notes, emails, and even Google Spreadsheets much more. I started using the Kindle app for reading and I actually like it. Sometime…

I think most people do prefer phablets. If you're interacting with your phone a lot, the large screen size has it's merits.

Many of us prefer the smaller size that was formerly common. The frustration we have is that 4" displays have completely disappeared from the market, aside from the iPhone SE and a few weird low-end Android phones.

Re: Apple iPhone SE Available on Apple Store Again

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Post by nothis » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:15 PM UTC

crooked-v wrote: post #158

kinkrtyavimoodh wrote: post #151

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The same is going to happen for Apple's "Professional" Macbooks. 2015 I think was the last year they made a decent Macbook? Since then it's been the touch bar (annoying but functional but potentially useful) and an absolute shit-show of a keyboard.

I've crossed off all Macbooks from my mental map of future purchases until they fix the keyboard and either get rid of the Touch Bar or make it actually do something useful. If/when my current laptop dies, I have no idea what'd get instead. Probably some other machine with a non-terrible keyboard to turn into a Hackintosh.

I'm in the same boat but it's really bitter since there is no real competition, is there? I don't want to switch to Linux (sorry, guys!), I don't like Windows and even just in terms of hardware, almost all competing laptops are subtly terrible as well.

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Post by rosstex » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:15 PM UTC

I lost my 6S a while ago, and was struggling to decide on a new phone. I would have picked up an X, but the XR/XS were being released in a few months, so I got an SE in the meantime. That turned out to be a fantastic choice, because I love my little SE. I realized that 90% of the reason I wanted a new phone was because of the camera, so I decided to take the savings from buying an SE and invest in an actual camera. I could not be happier with the combination.

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Post by duxup » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:16 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #124

I’m going to add to the dogpile here and add: I am really not sure how I can vote with my wallet more than I currently do. I had a 5S; upgraded to a 6S and spent a year with it, but I really hated the size of the phone and realised that small phones were entirely gone by the end of my time with the 6S. I tried Android for a while but it was Samsung’s Android and was not for me, I was frustrated and annoyed after ever…

I'm just riding my old Android 5x ... not having fun, want to switch to Apple (for a variety of reasons) but man wanting a smaller phone these days with a top of the line camera, and just reasonable performance doesn't seem like I'm asking much.

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Post by mediocrejoker » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:18 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #124

I’m going to add to the dogpile here and add: I am really not sure how I can vote with my wallet more than I currently do. I had a 5S; upgraded to a 6S and spent a year with it, but I really hated the size of the phone and realised that small phones were entirely gone by the end of my time with the 6S. I tried Android for a while but it was Samsung’s Android and was not for me, I was frustrated and annoyed after ever…

As an aside I'm glad I'm not the only one having less-than-perfect airpod reception with my SE. My guess is that they just didn't take the airpods required level of connectivity in mind when designing the SE but then decided that it was "good enough" to market as compatible.

Regardless, the airpods work flawlessly indoors and only cut out a bit when walking around the city.

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Post by CloudNetworking » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:20 PM UTC

ashelmire wrote: post #305

chrisseaton wrote: post #290

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If it’s the product you want and the price is worth it to you then why feel a fool? If the similar phone did what you want then you’d buy that instead. The extra $900 is either worth it for the missing feature or not. Nobody’s a fool in this situation.

Paying $900 for it to be an iPhone over android for the average user would be foolish. The icon and ios aren’t worth the money.

Even for the average user the differences are not the icon and ios. It's the consequences of the icon and ios (better marketplace, safer phone, arguably more stable and more durable, etc)

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Post by ihuman » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:20 PM UTC

kgwxd wrote: post #297

rahoulb wrote: post #293

Much as I love the small phone (I had a 5S and an SE) ... the link is for the refurb store. So this isn't anything about Apple restarting production of these - just that they've had some returned that they are now reselling. If you want one, it's probably the best way to get hold of one, but it's not a long-term, or even medium-term solution to the "no decent small phone available" problem.

5S was the perfect size, if only it could run Linux.

If you jailbreak your phone, you can duel-boot iOS and Android on some models, but its a sub-par experience.

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Post by occamschainsaw » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:22 PM UTC

lowercased wrote: post #286

I was just about to get a new iphone se from ebay. I need one compatible with AT&T, and can't for the life of me tell which one of the ones available would work for me. They show 'verizon' and 't-mobile' - which one of these would also work with AT&T network?

The T-mobile (Unlocked with tmo sim) should work over AT&T's network.

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Post by matwood » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:24 PM UTC

whieee wrote: post #309

kmlx wrote: post #210

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personal preference: the current Mac keyboard is the Best keyboard I have ever used for programming and email writing. it is leagues ahead of any other keyboard when it comes to speed and comfort. before the latest Mac keyboard I was a die-hard Thinkpad keyboard fan (x220 none the less). since working on the new Macs it's like I've re-discovered the how good typing can be.

Can you elaborate what you like so much about Apple's butterfly keyboards? I've used every Apple notebook keyboard since 2003 and up until 2015 I was pretty satisfied. The only keyboards I considered better were Thinkpad keyboards. The butterfly keyboard to me is completely unusable due to lack of travel and feedback, so I barely use it. It feels like bashing my fingertips on to a flat surface, hoping for keystrokes…

Not the person you asked, but I also like typing on the new keyboards. I find I can type faster with the low travel. My fingers tend to glide over the keys instead of mashing them. If you routinely move from a long travel to the a low travel keyboard I can understand an adjustment period. Now when I type on other keyboards they all feel mushy and require so much strike effort that I have to adjust.

What I don't like is the well documented reliability issues, and the how loud they were on the 2017 model.

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Post by mediocrejoker » Mon, Mar 25, 2019, 2:24 PM UTC

simonh wrote: post #233

RubberbandSoul wrote: post #205

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That's a dangerous strategy considering that an iPhone is the "window" to their ecosystem: App store, Apple Pay, the iOS UX experience, etc. I know many people who love Apple's ecosystem but who won't pay through the nose for a "premium" phone that's way overpowered for their needs.

Then frankly they're not in the Apple target demographic. I know that sucks, but the iPhone is a gateway for customers who are willing to pay a premium for Apple products. The real danger for Apple would be compromising with a budget model at the entry level. It would kill their value proposition on the whole rest of their line. The closest they get is previous-year models and refurbs.

That doesn't account for the people who like the SE for it's size/weight primarily. The fact that it's much cheaper than the new giant phones is a nice bonus.

It also doesn't take into account people who may be budget conscious now but will have spending power in a few years. Why would apple turn up its nose at that market share?