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Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by scarface74 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #339
scarface74 wrote: post #334

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So I’m sure every school system will get right on that. As well as every cable ISP that even with their gigabit home internet service caps upload bandwidth at 35Mbps.

I know it's a problem! But I don't think it's Apple's job to forever hold back their development for people's very particular personal problems. You bog a product down by making sure you can handle all these issues. Keep it simple and move on, I say.

You're right, Apple shouldn't produce products that are actually usable for the vast amount of customers in the world as it exists today.

They should also abandon LTE and only produce devices that work with 5G.....

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by ksec »

alaskamiller wrote: post #89
kalleboo wrote: post #61

Apple's product naming is confusing. Does anyone know what "Air" means? I thought it used to mean smallest and lightest. But on the Mac the "MacBook" is smaller and lighter, and on the iPad we have the smaller iPad Mini, and the "iPad" is smaller and only 14 grams heavier. From the MacBook Air line, we understood the definition to be "it's the cheap one", but that doesn't apply to the iPad line where it costs more. S…

It's really simple: iBook became MacBook then derived MacBook Air, a thinner version iPod derived iPod Mini, a smaller version Ergo iPad Mini is smaller than the iPad while iPad Air is thinner than the iPad

But the iPad Air is thicker than the iPad Pro. And the MacBook Air is thicker than the MacBook.

I think Apple are now simply using Air brand name on midrange devices.

iPad Pro > iPad Air > iPad MacBook Pro > MacBook Air > Macbook

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by Grustaf »

jackfrodo wrote: post #3

I'm 24 years old, work in software. Neither I nor any of my friends uses a tablet for work or pleasure. I guess I know a couple of people who have Surface Pro's, but that's about it. I'm wondering if the appeal of these begins when you get older? Seems like a lot of the market for these is people who are 50+, but I'd like to know if any people under 25 are interested in them.

I live in Denmark and am above 40. i don’t think I’ve met anyone here with children that doesn’t have one or more ipads. I also don’t think ipad less developers are very common at any age. At my former company even our android developer had one. Of course Scanidnavia is iOS country, almost eveyone has an iPhone.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by tracker1 »

"breakthrough pricing"?

I'm sorry, but there are generations of tablets in the sub-$300 range that were high enough end at the time. The Nexus 7 was great, I've got a Huawei tablet that's been very good (around $240 a year and a half ago iirc).

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by chrisseaton »

scarface74 wrote: post #341
chrisseaton wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know it's a problem! But I don't think it's Apple's job to forever hold back their development for people's very particular personal problems. You bog a product down by making sure you can handle all these issues. Keep it simple and move on, I say.

You're right, Apple shouldn't produce products that are actually usable for the vast amount of customers in the world as it exists today. They should also abandon LTE and only produce devices that work with 5G.....

If you can't get reliable WiFi maybe the iPad isn't the product for you? I don't think that's an issue - there's loads of other products on the market and people who do want the clean Apple experience can get that. Why do all products have to do everything and suit the entire world's crazy workflows? You end up with a Homer Car.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by tracker1 »

tyleo wrote: post #26
jackfrodo wrote: post #3

I'm 24 years old, work in software. Neither I nor any of my friends uses a tablet for work or pleasure. I guess I know a couple of people who have Surface Pro's, but that's about it. I'm wondering if the appeal of these begins when you get older? Seems like a lot of the market for these is people who are 50+, but I'd like to know if any people under 25 are interested in them.

I'm 26 and the iPad Air and iPad mini do not appeal to me but I own an iPad Pro and I am enamored with it. I use the iPad Pro at my full-time job as a Software Engineer at Microsoft. I get a lot of mileage by taking notes on it in OneNote and preparing/reading documents from the other Office apps. I also use the iPad to listen to music with Spotify (my headphones have trouble connecting to my work PC). Outside of the…

Could self-host code-server[1], or use their commercial version.

[1] https://github.com/codercom/code-server/

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by scarface74 »

chrisseaton wrote: post #345
scarface74 wrote: post #341

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right, Apple shouldn't produce products that are actually usable for the vast amount of customers in the world as it exists today. They should also abandon LTE and only produce devices that work with 5G.....

If you can't get reliable WiFi maybe the iPad isn't the product for you? I don't think that's an issue - there's loads of other products on the market and people who do want the clean Apple experience can get that. Why do all products have to do everything and suit the entire world's crazy workflows? You end up with a Homer Car.

And I am sure it makes perfect sense for Apple to seed the entire market of people who have cable internet access and slow WiFi for what exactly?

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by asark »

Bud wrote: post #286
baobrain wrote: post #238

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Is wanting to connect to your Macbook to charge your phone an obtuse use case? At the very least apple should have shipped with a USB-C to lightning cable, not USB-A.

Why? You keep repeating this without ever defending your argument. As of right now, and in the near future, more Mac users have USB-A. There is simply no compelling reason to make this change unless you absolutely need extra features provided uniquely by USB-C. And this device doesn't need anything like that.

The reverse problem (I have lots and lots of USB-A devices, while the only USB-C device in my house is my wife's Android phone, so like almost everyone else I had "no compelling reason" to want a device with any USB-C ports, let alone only USB-C ports) didn't convince Apple to leave one or two USB-A ports in their pro macbooks, unfortunately. That you can't go buy a current macbook and current iphone or ipad and connect the two when you get home unless you buy extra stuff, but you can if you have an older macbook, is silly. It is a point in favor of that "Apple's greatest MacBook Pro yet: the 2015" joke/actually-true-thing, I guess.

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by CloudNetworking »

thrav wrote: post #198
scott_s wrote: post #76

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I can see that if you're constantly gripping the tablet. I sit with it similar to how I would with a book or a magazine; I'm not actively gripping it, and it allows more posture variations than a laptop for me.

Therein lies the difference. If I’m on my ass, I’m horizontal. I only lay on the couch. Never sit.

Keeping in mind that most people sit on their sofas I'd say there's market for tablets then :P

Re: New iPad Air and iPad Mini

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Post by skrowl »

jackfrodo wrote: post #3

I'm 24 years old, work in software. Neither I nor any of my friends uses a tablet for work or pleasure. I guess I know a couple of people who have Surface Pro's, but that's about it. I'm wondering if the appeal of these begins when you get older? Seems like a lot of the market for these is people who are 50+, but I'd like to know if any people under 25 are interested in them.

I think most people progress past tablets to things like Surface Pros and Chromebooks naturally. The tablet market is dying because it's just not useful in a world where Chromebooks & Surface form factor PCs can run Android apps.
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