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Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received a large tip

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Re: Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received a large tip

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How about paying people who serve you instead of passing the "buck" to the someone else? Why start tipping for outstanding service, instead of setting the floor at $0 for 0 service? Answer: because people like to pay less for stuff and let the company eat the blame.

Why is 'service' seen as a separately billed item, paid for by the tip, in a restaurant in the US? Why isn't it included in the bill for the food, like everything else is?

Because standing in line for food is cheaper than having someone personaly serve it to you? You are not so much paying for a potato, as you are paying for it to be fried, packaged, and in your hand, quickly and reliably.

Re: Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received a large tip

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post #172

Their help section specifically states : "Shoppers appreciate tips as a way of recognizing great service and 100% of your tip goes directly to the shopper delivering your order. For more information about tipping, follow this link." Source: https://www.instacart.com/help/section/200761924#213895126 payment/service fee section If confirmed this is straight out lying to your customers

What you quoted is not a lie. 100% of the tip is going to the shopper. The problem is they are not paying the shopper on top of the tip.

Re: Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received a large tip

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Check United Airlines stock price. Or Über. Or Exxon. Or Shell. Or Haliburton.

Those are companies that had enormous PR disasters and had short-term stock losses. It didn't even have anything to do with boycotts.

None of them had any significant loss. United stock was up, just two days after the incident. Many people claimed to never do business again with these companies, yet there is no indication that any significant number actually did.

Re: Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received a large tip

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post #314

Startup culture is a study in psychopathy. - lack of empathy: Uber, Instacart, etc. etc. etc., exploiting the poor - parasitic behavior: aggressive tax optimisation/tax evasion, Amazon employees relying on food stamps for subsistance - superficial charm: get rich quick - pathological lying: cf. Facebook denying they ever did anything wrong - manipulativeness: "make the world more open and connected" and my personal f…

"solve physics for good!"... that was a quick meta.

Turns out machine learning has some limitations.

Re: Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received a large tip

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I love how even knowing the company is stealing from their employees isn't enough to get you to drop using their service. I'm going to send at most 3 angry tweets about this before I forget about it and move on to the next thing to be upset about today.

I'm not even going to send an angry tweet. I'm going to keep ordering. If a driver takes the job, at the price Instacart wants to pay, it's on the driver, of course. And this works until it doesn't! Once people quit driving for IC, THIS is the market price signal which will cause the system to reconfigure. If IC can't get drivers, they must pay more! I have zero illusions that enough people understand the free market…

Price signals are not the one, only, sole legitimate form of communication of preferences.

Re: Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received a large tip

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I love how even knowing the company is stealing from their employees isn't enough to get you to drop using their service. I'm going to send at most 3 angry tweets about this before I forget about it and move on to the next thing to be upset about today.

I'm not even going to send an angry tweet. I'm going to keep ordering. If a driver takes the job, at the price Instacart wants to pay, it's on the driver, of course. And this works until it doesn't! Once people quit driving for IC, THIS is the market price signal which will cause the system to reconfigure. If IC can't get drivers, they must pay more! I have zero illusions that enough people understand the free market…

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Re: Instacart paying 80 cents an hour because worker received a large tip

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I would agree, if the app didn't say "tip for delivery person" instead of "tip for instacart" or something maybe more ambiguous like "tip." Take a look at the screenshots of their app being discussed here: https://www.forbes.com/sites/bizcarson/2018/04/24/instacart-...

Are you sure those aren't the upcoming changes? There's another older screenshot further down that has more ambiguous wording. Edit: welp, even that says it 100% goes to the person doing the shopping. Gross.

Insidious, right? 100% of the tip technically does go to your shopper.

Welcome to the world of 'tipped wages'. In my state, every paycheck, the first $520 worth of tips effectively goes straight to your employer for the purposes of paying your minimum wage and then you can have whatever is left over.

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