My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

Post by shubb » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 1:32 PM UTC

Post by apexalpha » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 1:33 PM UTC

a_imho wrote: post #246

apexalpha wrote: post #232

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As always: it's not that Black and White. Many people in my country, and NW Europe in general, opt for pay in another currency: time. Dutch people work _on average_ 350 hours less per year than their US counterparts; or about 7 weeks worth when working 40 hours a week. It's not unheard of in my company to have between 30 and 50 paid days off per year on top of the national holidays. These days are negotiated during s…

On average means very little, especially across all positions considered. Also, in software it is very easy to bill hours, it very loosely correlates to productivity, which I don't think particularly varies that much across nationalities (and in my experience Americans like to overstate their work ethic as if working overtime is a badge of honor) Nevertheless 350/40 = 8.75, but it is still far from covering the wage…

Post by jerf » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 1:34 PM UTC

pjc50 wrote: post #269

ponyous wrote: post #235

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Seems like it's more important to change titles than company according to your history. To be honest I'm a bit offended you consider yourself senior with 2 years of experience.

I got promoted to "senior" developer less than 6 months out of university because my employer wanted to inflate the credibility of his consulting business. Job titles aren't standardised and can be pretty meaningless between organisations.

Post by Blaiz0r » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 1:38 PM UTC

ponyous wrote: post #241

sleepychu wrote: post #236

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Why are you offended? The market considers them senior...

I spent 5+ years in the industry and felt weird calling myself senior. Just because you are a friend with CEO and he can vouch for your title doesn't make you senior. In 2 years of experience how many serious products can you take from start to finish? In my opinion, a senior developer is a person who did this multiple times. It's almost like calling yourself lead developer of 1 man team...

Post by chickenfries » Wed, Oct 31, 2018, 1:38 PM UTC

qubax wrote: post #327

gigatexal wrote: post #206

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2018 - Salary for me an expat in Germany at a fintech startup: 53k Euros a year. No signing bonus. No options. Experience: 5 years as a DBA the rest a sad self taught programmer with 6 months of prior startup experience shipping microservices in C# and Python. Startup in logistics 2018 6 months: 48k euros. Previous: DBA in Portland Oregon in 2013 to 2017 - 60k to 70k then as an EDW dev 78k USD.

Jesus that's horrible. I made much more than that straight out of college. But it was in NYC where cost of living is high and taxes destroy you. The saddest part is that your salary didn't increase much in 5 years? Going from $60k to $70k to 53k euros over 5 years is pretty much tracking inflation. Over 5 years, my salary increased by more than double your entire salary. You should ask for a raise from time to time o…