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(not a chrome user, but:) my understanding is that now if you log into google (e.g. a gmail account), you automatically get logged into chrome, including Chrome Sync.
That is not at all my understanding. If you don't have sync enabled, nothing automatically enables sync . You have to go through a large confirmation dialog (with an "undo" button) to enable sync.
I don't understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on- their team (managers and developers) are all over twitter and reddit trying to explain the privacy violations away as if the people upset about this are just not understanding what's going on. I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from Chrome, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it started opening up more antitrust possibilit…
I work at Google; opinions are my own. > I don't understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on- their team (managers and developers) are all over twitter and reddit trying to explain the privacy violations away as if the people upset about this are just not understanding what's going on. My impression is that this is the new norm at Google. It happens with everything, internal or external. The sad rea…
I never wanted my youtube account tied to my business email.
I don't understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on- their team (managers and developers) are all over twitter and reddit trying to explain the privacy violations away as if the people upset about this are just not understanding what's going on. I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from Chrome, and frankly I wouldn't be surprised if it started opening up more antitrust possibilit…
I had been using Chrome only for G Suite stuff (forced by my employer to maintain this account) and FF for everything else. This change resulted in the deletion of Chrome from my computer and a move to FF with Multi Account Containers set to segregate various services from each other. I'm half thankful for the Chrome team doing this because it was just the push I needed to finally rid myself of Chrome once and for al…
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Here's one: https://twitter.com/__apf__/status/1044109217903198210
Yeah...and that thread says that the change is basically nothing, just a UI indicator: > Q: I don’t get, though — if you’re signed in to the browser but sync is off, then what does it mean to be signed in to the browser? What does it do besides sync? > A: Not much, you can think of it like a Gmail login state indicator. If that's fully the case, then there's nothing to see here and people are freaking out over nothin…
Their current argument is that they aren't actually collecting that data- just getting permission to- but that's kind of sketchy and still leaves them open to other changes that do start collecting things.
The other big issue people have with this is that the use case they're talking about- accidentally logging into a site and not logging out- is an issue with all websites, not just Google. Adding a UI for Google services explicitly is something only Google could do, which makes their browser less "neutral". This is why people keep bringing up antitrust. By taking advantage of their monopoly to further entrench that monopoly they are breaking the trust of their users.
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Maybe the Chrome team is right about their larger user base? Maybe the Chrome team was wrong to introduce signing in to a browser at all?
> Maybe the Chrome team was wrong to introduce signing in to a browser at all? maybe, but that would mean that all browser vendors did it wrong. (including mozilla)
I think that's the case, and Mozilla is one of all your friends who are jumping off the proverbial bridge. (Posted from FF, not signed-in.)
does chrome let you choose what to sync? opera does (which is also forked from chromium), and you can encrypt the data with your own pw
Just in case you weren’t aware; Opera is owned by a Chinese consortium. I personally wouldn’t touch Opera with a ten foot pole.
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It actually uses multiple sources for regular results, not just Bing: > from a variety of partners, including Oath (formerly Yahoo) and Bing https://duck.co/help/results/sources I remember Yandex being one of the sources as well.
Yahoo now uses Bing. Yandex is basically indexed Russian pages. So unless you're searching in Russian, DDG is essentially a reskin of Bing search.
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> I don’t understand why the Chrome team is picking this hill to die on Because they’re not “dying on a hill” at all, because nobody cares. Nobody outside Hacker News and Twitter infosec people only followed by other Twitter infosec people cares about this. > I really expect this change to push a lot of people away from chrome Care to bet on that? Because I would happily take the opposite side of that bet. I think th…
I'm typically out of touch with normal people so I'm probably proving your point, but this has pushed me off chrome and Google. Ive always loved google. Installed chrome when it was released. I'm writing this from a pixel 2 XL because I broke my pixel 1 XL. I've had a Gmail account almost since it's been possible (I have my firstnamelastname@gmail.com). I now use firefox. I don't know what mail I'll switch to, and I…
Hop on https://www.gandi.net/, choose a domain name that looks professional (such as mylastname.me or some other clever variation) and never have to ask that question again.
If you ever want to go back to gmail, bring in your domain with gsuite (https://gsuite.google.com/).
As for an alternative UI&host recommendation, go for fastmail: https://www.fastmail.com/
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google seems too big to fail. what are you going to do? start searching with yahoo?
More like start searching with DuckDuckGo, use an alternate email service such as Fastmail, Protonmail, etc., and use Firefox. By the way, what's an alternate email service the HN users recommend?