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CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Re: CES Was Full of Useless Robots and Machines That Don’t Work

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Post by beaconstudios »

usaphp wrote: post #25
beaconstudios wrote: post #6

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for 1, a dishwasher covers (wash) and in some cases (dry) - the putting away is the least time-consuming step so I'm not convinced a robot would be a massive innovation over dishwashers unless it also collected not-in-use washables but that's robot butler levels of complexity. for 2, I don't know about the US but in the UK you can get small local companies that will wash and iron a sack of laundry for you, and return…

1. The thing that preventing me to put a dirty set of dishes in a dishwasher is a clean set of dishes from the last wash. Most of the time I just end up watching them by hand. 2. You still have to arrange time to meet them or drive there, putting your clothes together and then taking them back

I forgot to mention, the UK services pick up from your house.

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Post by dagw »

unwind wrote: post #340
dagw wrote: post #336

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I want it too and I'm not joking. I don't want to 'waste' a whole wall for a large TV, but if I could hang a rolled up TV on a book case and only pull it out when I needed it I would love that. That being said I'm not expecting to see one at a price I'd want to pay in the next 15 years

Just out of curiosity, what do you expect to be able to use the wall for when it's not covered by the TV? Roll-up posters hung somewhere else that roll out to cover the same area?

what do you expect to be able to use the wall for when it's not covered by the TV?

A bookshelf. I have a bookshelf on the wall doing what bookshelves do. And then I'll hang the TV 'roll' in front of one of the shelves and pull it down in front of the bookshelf when I want to use it.

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Post by brk »

raitom wrote: post #82

We are talking about machines but during my last trip to Japan I’ve been blown away by the domotic present in the appartment I rented. There was a self-filling bathtube that I could program directly from the kitchen. Is there any « bathtube auto-fill/alexa » product in the US? I never been able to find something like that. I’d like to be able to ask alexa to prepare my bath while I’m cooking.

Is there any « bathtube auto-fill/alexa » product in the US?

Kohler was showing one at CES that seemed to be available (or available soon).

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Post by soft_freak »

deepGem wrote: post #228
bane wrote: post #5

Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…

1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. I have actually thought about this, since this is a chore that I absolutely hate. In my view no one should be subject to the task of making dishes. Some people seem to like it, God bless them ! Initial prototype will be to work with steel utensils to avoid damages. Current object detection techniques are sufficient to recognize plates, glasses, d…

Can we talk ?

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Post by danr4 »

dogma1138 wrote: post #339
situationista wrote: post #331

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I found a hack for #1 (I'm an architect) - I fit houses with 2 dishwashers side by side. You simply move dishes from one to the other, and start it when it's full. Think of the dishwasher as a robotic closet that automatically washes your dishes.

It takes less than 5 min to take out the dishes from a full dishwasher even a large one. I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be. Also I found even a better way and that is not to use the dishwasher at all besides after a dinner party or a large cooking session during the weekend. I live with my partner and it doesn’t take more than 10min to do the dishes at the end of each day without…

From research I've done lately, I found that new dishwashers are more environment friendly than washing dishes manually (taking into account water + electricity). So it's not only time saving it's also greener.

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Post by phkahler »

robbiep wrote: post #280
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #264

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Maybe if you had a guy whose job was to feed clothes into it in just the right way. TBF an experienced laundry person can fold them manually, much faster. Don't let a robot do something a human can do better.

Does anyone want a folded ironed shirt with the buttons done up?

The last thing I want to do when getting dressed in the morning is undo a bunch of buttons.

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Post by mtreis86 »

danr4 wrote: post #345
dogma1138 wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes less than 5 min to take out the dishes from a full dishwasher even a large one. I don’t care how many downvotes this get but how lazy can one person be. Also I found even a better way and that is not to use the dishwasher at all besides after a dinner party or a large cooking session during the weekend. I live with my partner and it doesn’t take more than 10min to do the dishes at the end of each day without…

From research I've done lately, I found that new dishwashers are more environment friendly than washing dishes manually (taking into account water + electricity). So it's not only time saving it's also greener.

Are you accounting for manufacturing or just usage?

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Post by xg15 »

swarnie_ wrote: post #298
xg15 wrote: post #281

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> You just put dirty dishes away in the "cupboard", and then they get washed once the machine detects that there are too many dirty ones That would mean either you wash every time you put in a dirty dish (which would be wasteful) - or you accept that you always have some dirty dishes mixed between your clean ones, including the food remains, fluids, smell, etc that come with them. Sounds really unpleasant. More pract…

> you'll have random parts of your kitchen inaccessible at random points of time. Rethink how we store things. Rather then all plates in one place, all bowls in another ect. you mix everything up so each cabinet has the same variety of objects in it. I know this only deals with one of your extremely valid points. I know some of the sorting/organizing people on here (the ones who label their label guns) would freak.

Thanks for taking the effort to think up a solution, but I'm not sold.

> Rethink how we store things

My apologies, but no. I'd like to not design my whole kitchen (and kitchen usage patterns) around my dishwasher.

> Rather then all plates in one place, all bowls in another ect. you mix everything up so each cabinet has the same variety of objects in it.

How would I quickly find the dishes I'm looking for? (No, installing RFID sensors or watertight cameras in each cupboard, "indexing" the dishes and providing a smartphone app with search is not an option.)

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Post by matwood »

Merad wrote: post #152
bane wrote: post #5

Here's what I want robots to do: 1) Wash my dishes, dry them and put them away completely automatically. 2) Wash and dry my clothes, fold them and put them away completely automatically. These two things would save me hours of work per week. FoldiMate simply isn't even close to being good enough, but I'd be willing to spend about that much for a robot that could do #2. I can vacuum my floor by myself and greet people…

> I can vacuum my floor by myself If you're in the HN demographic that likes to live in small urban apartments then you may not see value in automated vacuuming, but believe me they are filling a need for many people. My 68 year old mom decided to get one last year, prompted by discussions with several of her friends. She loves it so much that she's become something of a Roomba evangelical - last I checked she's talk…

> but I do have a cat.

This. I have animals and letting the Roomba run daily while I'm making breakfast helps keep the fur at bay until I vacuum each weekend. The Roomba does a good job getting under furniture, and having it run daily makes my weekend vacuum go much quicker.

95% of my house is on a single level so that does help.

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Post by daveguy »

omgtehlion wrote: post #195
cdoxsey wrote: post #137

The next 20 years will be a constant stream of half broken robots and ai systems. At least until we either get them to actually work or we figure out how bad they are and go back to using people again. It will be like setting up video conferencing, except for everything. Your car will go to the wrong place because it failed to account for a leap second, thus breaking gps. Your fridge will put itself in eco mode becau…

It is already here. Two days ago our HVAC controller apparently lost contact with one of the sensors (as technician told me) and we nearly froze at night (-10 C outside) only to came back later to a desert (+35 C in most rooms). I just yanked the thing out and adjusted all valves by hand. Fixing was $200. Now i'm thinking about replacing it with Arduino and simple PID controllers...

For traditional HVAC, because of the lag and few degree temp variance, you really only need the P part of a PID controller. But the same would happen of any controller. If the sensor goes bad it isn't going to work. Also, heat pump may require more sophisticated control.
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