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Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by gogoengie »

xemoka wrote: post #324
gogoengie wrote: post #254

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Could you be more specific? I don't believe this is a known issue. If you're experiencing this behavior, you may want to report it: https://github.com/philc/vimium/issues Personally, I'm running Firefox 55.0.3 with `vimium-ff` 1.6.0 (current build on addons.mozilla.org), and the `t` keybinding opens new tabs just like `Ctrl-t`. Command repetition also works (eg, `5t`).

Sorry, new tabs from links in background, using 'F'. Or at least with yesterday's version on ff58.0a1

Ah, cool. Yes, known bug. Reported fixed yesterday (though I've not tried it myself).

reported: https://github.com/philc/vimium/issues/2510

closed with: https://github.com/philc/vimium/pull/2602

I'm not familiar with their release cycle, so I don't know when it'll hit AMO.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by jorvi »

tapoxi wrote: post #122
driverdan wrote: post #84

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I'd like to see the same comparison on a Mac. The Windows version of Firefox has been close to Chrome performance for a while. The Mac version has been significantly slower.

I've been using Firefox Nightly (57) for a while on a 2013 MBP running Sierra. Firefox definitely feels significantly faster than it used to, and the new UI is great. But this comes at the cost of battery life. I moved back to Chrome because it was constantly chewing CPU.

But Chrome is also guilty of absolutely guzzling battery. I always try other browsers on macOS but in the end keep switching back to Safari because it easily gets me ~2-3h more battery life. This means that on 10h average battery life you'd pay a ~20-33% battery life premium just to run a different browser. At that point, finding replacement Safari extensions is well worth the bother.

What I don't understand: why is it that other browsers don't put battery life before all else? We live in a portable world after all..

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by nwah1 »

Love all the new quantum, rust, and servo work. I try to use Firefox exclusively, for the good of the web, and tell everyone to do likewise.

Only have a few issues with it. Frequently, I find that Firefox Sync doesn't remember that I'm logged in, particularly after updates, which come frequently.

Also, Firefox still requires a polyfill to use Web Components, although I realize that Mozilla has been working to ensure that the standard gets everything right, rather than just rushing right to approval. I don't know the status of all that, but I am hopeful that it will be all sorted out soon.

Also hope the churn with the extensions is coming to an end, but happy that the browser extensions standard is coming together. I prefer that it use an open standard.

I would also like to see gtk done away with, and a variant of browser.html used exclusively.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by sf_rob »

dr_zoidberg wrote: post #322
k__ wrote: post #139

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I installed that nightly and it really feels fast and modern. They even got rid of that search bar, haha. Only fonts and the scroll bars seem a bit old school compared to Chrome. Also, WhatsApp Web keeps logging me out.

> They even got rid of that search bar, haha. It's actually configurable by the user. I like having it on the side, so I added it back.

Mozilla is experimenting with which default is preferred by fresh install users right now, so users on this thread may have different initial defaults. I don't think that there are plans to change the default for existing users.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by mderazon »

callahad wrote: post #319
mderazon wrote: post #302

I would love switching but the only thing preventing me is the lack of profiles like Chrome has. Containers is not the same as you can't have different extensions for each container like chrome has for each profile. For example, I have 2 LP accounts one for home and one for work and there's no way to use both of then at the same time in FF

about:profiles -> launch in new browser More info about profiles at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profile-manager-create-...

Didn't know about this. It's still not nearly as convenient as Chrome. Hard to switch profiles, hard to distinguish which window is which profile.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by the_duke »

floatboth wrote: post #268
jhasse wrote: post #233

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Would be great if you could start to care about Firefox on Linux, too. (It's the only platform where hardware acceleration is disabled for example https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1280523 )

Yeah, it's really weird that you STILL have to force enable it through about:config. Come on Mozilla… Mesa 17 has arguably the best OpenGL implementation ever.

I can confirm that the 57 beta has acceleration enabled by default on Linux.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by CrystalGamma »

pimeys wrote: post #170
k__ wrote: post #139

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I installed that nightly and it really feels fast and modern. They even got rid of that search bar, haha. Only fonts and the scroll bars seem a bit old school compared to Chrome. Also, WhatsApp Web keeps logging me out.

> Also, WhatsApp Web keeps logging me out. This is an issue on my Arch Linux laptop, but not at work using Ubuntu. Both run Firefox nightly. Been going nuts with this issue!

Works on my Arch …

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by khc »

zeep wrote: post #64

It is a lot faster for me... so far, the most noticeable example is when using the back/forward buttons on Reddit (it used to reload the whole page every time) but more than half of the extensions that I use haven't been updated yet to work with Firefox 57. Looks like you can enable legacy extensions, about:config?filter=extensions.legacy.enabled, but it appears to be only for installed extensions (you can't add new…

does extensions.legacy.enabled actually work for you? I set it to true but lastpass is still disabled

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by kibwen »

willtim wrote: post #321
low_battery wrote: post #255

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I guess as long as it is not default behavior it will stay as a weakness then? I am not sure if it is worth to exchange it for memory or performance gain. Also is using thread per tab approach more susceptible to memory leaks, resource sharing issues or OS scheduling shenanigans than process per tab approach? You close the tab, the process is dead and resources are mostly guaranteed to returned. My knowledge of moder…

Perhaps that now they are using Rust instead of C++, leaks and memory corruption should be much less of an issue.

Though the Firefox developers aren't going to skimp on sandboxing (or other exploit mitigation techniques) just because of Rust. Defense-in-depth is the name of the game; Rust just provides a layer of language-level defense that C++ previously didn't offer.

Re: Firefox Quantum Lands in Beta, Developer Edition

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Post by steveklabnik »

jeffdavis wrote: post #339

I heard that the mobile and desktop versions of firefox are different. Is 57 going to be the same engine on both?

My understanding is that this is only about the desktop, with android coming later. And iOS can't use Gecko, so it doesn't count with this kind of thing.
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