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Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Post by kyle-rb »

KajMagnus wrote: post #334
kyle-rb wrote: post #319

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>I still find Reddit comments the easiest to read and follow (HN is a pretty close second, especially after they added comment collapsing) Really? I hate the tree style of comments. It's all well and good when you're reading a chain of replies, but then you run into a comment that's halfway back up the tree and have to make several attempts at collapsing comments to figure out which one is the sibling. I much prefer…

What do you mean with "halfway back up the tree"? You mean you read a comment C5, and then there are lots of replies to C5: C5-A1, C5-A2, C5-A3, ... but you want to find C5's sibling, C6?

If I want to read C6, so I have to find and collapse C5, C4, C3, etc. in order to see their common parent. And it's hard to tell the difference, especially on mobile, the difference between C5 and C5-A1, or C5 and the parent I'm looking for.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Post by tyteen4a03 »

dredmorbius wrote: post #219
tyteen4a03 wrote: post #19

Any NRK-style pre-comment quizzes?

NRK???

Yes, they've launched a beta tool that forces people to take a quiz before they're allowed to comment to ensure they actually read the article: https://nrkbeta.no/2017/08/10/with-a-quiz-to-comment-readers...

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Post by Spivak »

neilsimp1 wrote: post #281
alanbernstein wrote: post #209

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That seems like an unnecessary nitpick, considering Stack Exchange clearly includes a "comment" feature. Would you care to elaborate?

It's a Q&A system with commenting on the Q's and A's. Similar, but different, I guess.

Sure, but even the QA is basically a post/comment system adapted to solve a different problem. It's not so weird to take the lessons learned there and apply it back to general comment systems.

- A reputation scheme for both posters and commenters.

- Pinned responses from the poster.

- The comments appear in a 'best' ordering.

- Bad comments get pushed down and hidden.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Post by Spivak »

s73ver_ wrote: post #317
unescape wrote: post #314

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No, the idea is that they don't sign up for it. It's independent of the originating site.

Except it's not, because you still want it to be associated with the site. If you just want to comment on something, you already have Twitter, Mastodon, Facebook, your own blog, and probably a dozen other outlets. What you're asking for is the added legitimacy of the site itself, without their consent.

It's literally like having a browser add-on enable comments on a website by appending the Reddit/HN thread after an article [1]. But with the added benefit of the user being able to choose from a number of algorithmic/community moderation strategies to apply to the existing comments in order to show/hide/rank them.

[1] This add-on actually exists for YouTube/Reddit: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-on-you....

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Post by patrickk »

hollander wrote: post #267
memeCrasher wrote: post #254

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Far as I can tell, reddit functions best as a PR platform for businesses and corporations to communicate with their customers and fan-base. It's not the sort of place I'd go to for serious conversations about anything.

Than you haven't looked far enough, long enough, whatever. Reddit is an incredible source of information and discussion. It took me a long while to "get it", but I'm an addict now. Just for fun, but there are many serious subreddits with good discussions. It can be problematic to find them, as it's huge.

A good way to organise the good stuff into topics for yourself is via "multireddits", and add high quality subreddits as you discover them.

I have multireddits for tech, cryptocurrencies, DIY, entrepreneurship and so on. You can skim each multireddit for the top content every few days and filter out most of the low quality stuff that way. I learn a lot about interesting web businesses this way that I would have never discovered otherwise for example.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Post by TwelveNights »

unescape wrote: post #340
TwelveNights wrote: post #325

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The thing about federated comment feeds is that these news outlets will not be incentivized to embed them directly to their website, as they lose control of the content. This problem will damage the exposure that a federated system would receive.

Better than having news outlets embed them, is having browsers support mixing federated comments with the original content. How about it, Mozilla, Brave, and Chromium? Afraid to bite the hand that feeds you?

Okay, I'll give it to you that your idea would be really damn interesting. Still, there would have to be some semblance of moderation, and as to who that responsibility will be placed on is a hard question.

Re: Washington Post integrates Talk – Mozilla’s open-source commenting platform

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Post by unescape »

TwelveNights wrote: post #346
unescape wrote: post #340

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Better than having news outlets embed them, is having browsers support mixing federated comments with the original content. How about it, Mozilla, Brave, and Chromium? Afraid to bite the hand that feeds you?

Okay, I'll give it to you that your idea would be really damn interesting. Still, there would have to be some semblance of moderation, and as to who that responsibility will be placed on is a hard question.

Agreed. I trust the guy who runs uBlock Origin over AdBlock Plus not for any great reason, but because I vaguely remember people on this site recommending it.

I imagine people could delegate moderation responsibility to people and organizations with a strong reputation. Let's say GNU, EFF, and Larry Lessig would all publish moderation data and metadata; as well as your "friends" on various social media sites, friends-of-friends, etc.

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