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Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Is it that hard to ignore your Facebook feed?

I don't understand the people that find peace only after deleting the whole app from their phones.

I've had a FB account since inception and it has loads of people in it. Yet I probably look at facebook a maximum of maybe 10 times a year because I'm able to mentally compartmentalize the people there into groups of "important" and "not important"

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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post #16

"The tricks, hooks, and tactics Facebook uses to keep people coming back have gotten more aggressive and explicit. And I feel that takes away from the actual value the platform provides." This is why I stopped using Facebook. I really didn't mind the platform until they crossed the threshold of being a useful product to reminding my each time I used it that I AM the product. I like to fly under the radar and prefer p…

I think a lot of new companies are going to be burned by this eventually.

Every time Facebook turns up the notification rate, they see more engagement. Every time they encourage Boosting a post, they make more money. And then later, when they can't link cause and effect, people like you and me and OP give up on the site completely.

Similarly, sites that A/B test and adjust features and "improve" their design constantly pay a real price - their users feel like guinea pigs and can't ever learn to use the product fluidly. But a .1% conversion boost is measurable now, while a slow bleed of users who want reliability can't be proven.

At a certain point trading goodwill for bigger numbers actually does become a problem, and I think we're getting there.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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post #250

I've never been on Facebook but I have a few fake accounts. Those accounts don't have photos, never posted anything, never friended anyone, never even connected to anybody, etc. Yet they constantly get new "friends requests" and pokes and whatnot. Why would any real person want to be friend with a ghost fake account? Facebook is not only "needy", it's a big bullshit engine.

Those prompts almost certainly aren't Facebook-run. Too much effort and risk, no real need.

Rather, Facebook has a huge number of scammers. A few might be scamming you, but mostly they're from clickfarms that are trying to increase 'organic' behaviors so their accounts won't be banned.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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post #58

Perhaps the growth of the platform or certain internal user-based metrics are not being met, so whoever is in charge of making sure they "hit their numbers" is pushing like mad to find ways to grow product. I can see some very aggressive people sitting around a table coming up with ideas to force engagement. Then after a month, they sit back and figure out all the A/B testing that drives the machine. This reminds me…

I keep expecting companies to suffer from this "hit your numbers" approach, and it seems like they're starting to.

Every A/B test makes your site less predictable and straightforward for your users. Every push notification dilutes the value of every other notification sent. Every 'fake' event undermines the thrill of real engagement with other users.

At a certain point you're burning real value to create better metrics, and that's not sustainable for a company that actually wants to endure.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Although I'm not on Facebook anymore, I have the same problem with LinkedIn. To deal with it, I just add to my email sieve filter every so often. So far I have: ## Linkedin - Trash useless email if allof( address :is "From" "messages-noreply@linkedin.com", anyof( header :regex "Subject" "^(Congratulate|Say happy birthday to) .+", header :regex "Subject" "^Check out .+ (updated profile|new skill|new photo)", header :r…

Slight tangent, but any suggestions on how to do this kind of real-time filtering with Gmail? The filter functionality doesn't quite let you do regexes.

Imapfilter [1] would work.

It also uses regexes so it would be easy to convert mike-cardwell's rules.

[1]: https://github.com/lefcha/imapfilter

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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post #2

The best thing I ever did was delete the Facebook app from my phone. I had already disabled all the notifications, but that didn't change things like deleting the app. Not being able to get to Facebook wherever you are. As silly as it sounds it was liberating. I still access Facebook from my laptop - but now that it's off of my phone, I'm accessing Facebook less and less frequently and I'm find I'm happier as a resul…

Up until last year, I chalked up the "I deleted my Facebook" phenomenon to hipsterdom or some pathology where people think the can "cure" "addiction" by quitting whatever unhealthy behavior pattern they exhibit for a week or month and then coming back. Last month I deactivated my Facebook and have yet to turn it back on. In the months prior I started finding alternative sources of news: NYT, Pitchfork, HN, various su…

When you deactivate your Facebook, can you still use it to log into stuff (e.g. Tinder and Messenger)? I've a few friends and groups that are on that.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Btw has anyone tried alternate social networks like ello. at the launch it seemd like a good idea (having privacy protections in the company charter). honestly I'd be happy to pay FB something like 100 bucks a year for a just leave me alone, no-ads/no-tracking version.

Registered my desired username there in case it took off, found a single friend there (who was also doing the same thing), haven't been back since.

It looks like it's done a pivot since the last time I was there, going by the new onboarding process asking me if I'm an artist or a fan.

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Yet another post on that subject... It's so disappointing that there are still people discovering life without Facebook when they should have uninstalled it long ago. They're very late in that process since sooo many have done it and written about it in thorough details.

It's disappointing that people are doing the thing you want them to do? What else would you like, them to hop into a time machine and do it at the right time too? :P

Re: Facebook, You Needy Sonofabitch

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Up until last year, I chalked up the "I deleted my Facebook" phenomenon to hipsterdom or some pathology where people think the can "cure" "addiction" by quitting whatever unhealthy behavior pattern they exhibit for a week or month and then coming back. Last month I deactivated my Facebook and have yet to turn it back on. In the months prior I started finding alternative sources of news: NYT, Pitchfork, HN, various su…

When you deactivate your Facebook, can you still use it to log into stuff (e.g. Tinder and Messenger)? I've a few friends and groups that are on that.

No.

For third-party app logins I use a friendless FB account under a pseudonym.

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