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I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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Re: I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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I wish we could all schedule things on UTC time. I've been part of 10 person meetings across 4 time zones and scheduling sucks. Inevitably someone assumes a meeting is scheduled in their local time.

You don't have to be in UTC, but having your clock set to 24 hours still makes it a lot easier. After a year of daily meetings with people on the east coast (of the US), London, Hamberg, and Brasilia from the west coast of the US I just moved to 24 hours and found it much easier to mentally calculate everyone's respective times- as long as I could keep the offsets squared away. Screw daylight savings.

It's even worse when you don't observe DST but basically everyone else does.

I can't even keep the offsets squared away since they shift a couple times a year.

Re: I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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about 3 months ago I bought some USB-C USB-A [1] cables on Amazon. I plugged one into my MacBook and it immediately turned it off and banned it from the system. I started to smell electrical burning. I yanked the cord out of the wall and never touched it again. Threw away the whole pack.

The cables were made in China and re-branded by a USA company.

Don't buy cheap Chinese garbage electronics.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0161GVULY/ref=oh_aui_deta...

Re: I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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You're being persuaded by anecdotal evidence. At the volume of sales Amazon makes, fraud is but a tiny fraction. The probability of your next purchase to be a fraudulent one is minuscule. Not saying fraud isn't an issue, and there's certainly room for Amazon to improve in that area and keep it at bay even more, but I think the reason they don't do what you say is probably that they k ow the numbers, if they see a mil…

I'm being persuaded by personal experience. I haven't actually been the victim of any fraud on Amazon, but the other problems with third-party sellers are already enough to make me shy away.

Personal experience is anecdotal by definition.

What are the other problems?

Anyways, I'm not defending, just surprised the HN crowd accepts a few anecdotes which are statistically insignificant given the Amazon volumes.

I see questions like, how do people still trust to buy on Amazon? Aren't they aware of all the fraud?

And the answer is no they are not, because they've never been frauded through Amazon, and know no one who has. And that's the case for most Amazon shoppers.

People on hacker news have seen the outliers, the blog post about a single third party fraudster, and a few commenters who maybe experienced something similar.

There are many great 3rd party sellers on Amazon that operate in good faith, and give just as good an experience as 1st party Amazon. But on HN, it seems people see black or white only, and somehow they conclude all black even though the canvas is majority white.

I feel like I'm back in 2000, when some people were asking: How can you trust buying anything online, aren't you afraid of the fraud?

I've ordered countless items on Amazon, in the hundreds, most from 3rd party, never got frauded, never had issues. If you go by anecdotes, add this one to your samples.

Re: I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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I'm wondering more and more why Amazon hosts third-party sellers at all. They dilute the Amazon brand to a tremendous degree. It used to be that buying from Amazon meant a certain level of quality and service. Now there are really two Amazons: the old one, and a new one that's basically a shitty version of eBay. I have to go out of my way to avoid these crappy third-party sellers when I'm searching for stuff on Amazo…

This 100 times. I never buy from third-party sellers in Amazon, but I am having such a hard time explaining to friends and family how to do the same. They keep buying from third-party sellers and keep wondering how it is not "Amazon". I wish there was an option to set it once and never see third-party seller items again.

Agree. I send some people here[1], but they still mess it up.

[1] http://www.nomarketplace.com/us/

Re: I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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There have been a couple of previous hacker news discussions on the problem of counterfeit goods being sold by Amazon. The problem here is that if there are counterfeit goods being sold by a 3rd party, you might get them even if the product listing your ordered from says that it is sold and shipped by Amazon. Amazon co-mingles goods from Amazon and third party sellers unless the third party seller explicitly opts out…

I received a counterfeit item after paying more for the item that was "Sold my Amazon", thinking that way, I would get the real product. What's more frustrating is that Amazon didn't really care or do anything about it. They offered a return or an exchange but couldn't guarantee that that the exchanged item wouldn't be fake. I no longer trust them with items that are easily faked.

> Amazon didn't really care or do anything about it. They offered a return or an exchange

Sorry to sound like an Amazon fanboy, but what else could Amazon do for you?

They offered a return without even questioning you. I don’t know a lot of companies that would do that.

Re: I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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I had someone set up an amazon.mx account using my credentials somehow.... they ordered a bunch of online books, include a $1200 textbook. I have no idea how they were able to do it. I was able to get them to reverse all the charges pretty quickly, but I still get messages from amazon mexico saying i should buy stuff, and for a while amazon.com would ask me if i wanted to go to amazon mexico when i logged in. I have…

As a sort of counterpoint, I really wish that Amazon UK was integrated with the Amazon US customer database. I'd like to be able to log into Amazon UK with my normal credentials and order something from there, with the option of international shipping - because occasionally I want to order a product that's not available over here in any way.

It works this way for me. My credentials work for both .uk and .com although I only have Prime on .com. My order history is unique to the country site, but address book is the same for both.

Re: I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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One potential problem with that is that Amazon can retaliate by closing the users's account if they didn't agree with the charge-back even if they're unsuccessful at fighting it. That can be really difficult to deal with if you're also using AWS for hosting or other things.

Whenever I see comments about how "Company XYZ deleted my account after I issued a charge-back!" I ask: Why would one want to continue doing business with a company that made you issue a charge-back? Charge-back is pretty much the nuclear option of last resort when you have exhausted all avenues of redress. You're basically doing it to get your money back and "salt the earth" as you leave. I've done a few charge-back…

Sure, if everything in the world had competitors that were trivial to switch to. If I suffer through bad customer service for two hours that's bad but it's not itself enough to make me switch companies. As long as I get my money back I'll still be willing to work with most companies.

Re: I Fell Victim to a $1,500 Used Camera Lens Scam on Amazon

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Liking zero indexed lists is such a dumb programmer meme. Lists are for humans to read and therefore should use the natural numbers, which start at one. Arrays are zero indexed because the first item of the array starts with zero offset.

>Lists are for humans to read and therefore should use the natural numbers Depending on who you ask, the natural numbers do contain zero. Notably ISO 80000-2 is of that opinion. In university, half my professors included 0 in the natural numbers, half excluded it. For lists, starting them at 1 makes sense, but I would argue that's purely because that way the words "first", "second", "fiftieth" etc. line up with the n…

To be fair to floor labels starting with 1, I have never seen a floor with a negative number.
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