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Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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Hi Dustin! - Ubuntu Desktop - Ubuntu Subsystem for Windows :) - An integrated system (Wine is not user friendly imho) to launch windows programs. - linux (and windows) user and developer. @vinnes

I may be wrong, but I don't think Canonical has the engineering resources to pull it off. Even if they did, the main issue is that Microsoft does not publish their API spec which is why Wine and ReactOS devs bend over backwards to be compatible with Windows binaries. It also does not make sense from a business perspective. Considering there is no demand for such a system outside of the very, very small number of hobb…

The computer is already running Windows, there's no need for Wine. Just the ability to launch a Windows program from within a Linux program would do.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Desktop

- HEADLINE: Improve Suspend/Wake up

- DESCRIPTION: Most of the time the system wouldn't wake up after suspend, I can't shutdown every time as I've many dev env (IDE's, VM' etc) running.

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- HEADLINE: Add built-in support for a blue light filter.

- DESCRIPTION: Setting up redshift requires bit of work and need to run a daemon to make it start with system.

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- HEADLINE: Improve Bluetooth support.

- DESCRIPTION: It is hit or miss at the moment.

- ROLE/AFFILIATION: Software architect for a bank.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop

- HEADLINE: Iterate on the design

- DESCRIPTION: Some versions ago, there was a lot of movement in designing Ubuntu. There were general improvements like the new scrollbar, new icons, a new gtk theme, and on the other side a general push to make it more like an Apple desktop. Some of it worked, some did not. But it all feels unfinished, abandoned. Nowadays every Ubuntu version looks and feels the same, all that is changing are the geometric forms of the pink-brown desktop background, and the old issues remain untouched. There is so much unfinished stuff here one could work on:

* Integrate the modified overlay scrollbar fully into the system. It for example never worked with Firefox, despite that being your default browser. Patch FF if necessary to make it happen.

* Fix the remaining UI issues of that scrollbars, like not being able to fully scroll to the bottom if the overlay reaches the bottom of the scrollbar before the window content.

* The GTK themes could use new variants and a general modernization.

* The icon set looks dated now, and Unity does not present them very nicely. It is a great opportunity to improve the overall look.

* Make your design team actually develop a design concept linked to the new version and code name, and not produce another interchangeable wallpaper of geometric lines on brown and purple each time. Remember what you did for intrepid - it doesn't have to be brown again, it doesn't have to be an animal, but at least get some character into the design. And honestly: https://design.canonical.com/2016/04/wallpaper-design-for-xe... was a disgrace for the design community. Our Suru language is influenced by the minimalist nature of Japanese culture. We have taken elements of their Zen culture that give us a precise yet simplistic rhythm and used it in our designs. Working with paper metaphors we have drawn inspiration from the art of origami that provides us with a solid and tangible foundation to work from. Paper is also transferable, meaning it can be used in all areas of our brand in two and three dimensional forms. Sure...

* Make unity better customizeable - all that apple stuff like having window controls to the left really needs to be configurable. That's part of a good design, and something where you dropped the ball (the global menu not being absolute anymore was a good first step). Embrace the linux UI stuff like sloppy focus and windows that can be pinned to specific workspaces.

Edit: In the spirit of the last phrase, a "honor where you came from" could be a great slogan for such a UI/UX design iteration.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: include f.lux or redshift as a default installed package. - DESCRIPTION: by including f.lux / redshift , Ubuntu will be helping users to get better sleep . I know it's very difficult to accommodate requests for default apps, but macOS and iOS has Night Shift, Android has Night Mode. Thanks !

I'm not sure about having it enabled by default, but I would absolutely love for it to be just installed by default, and with solid control panel integration to manage it.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Replace X11 with Mir or Wayland - DESCRIPTION: X11 is old, slow, and full of security issues. Mir, even in alpha, is much more responsive and provies important 21st centry feature set. Wayland is already used by a major distro. X11 is that cobweb that's gone uncleaned in our closet for too long. - HEADLINE: Improve UI. - DESCRIPTION: When I use Ubuntu it's often easier to use the te…

I'd much prefer wayland over Mir. I know they're already set in their ways but wayland on fedora 25 works beautifully and has a way more reasonable license. It'd also be nice to have Ubuntu's support in continuing wayland adoption.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Server - HEADLINE: Python 3 as default - DESCRIPTION: In lieu of a description, I'll just link to this: https://pythonclock.org - ROLE/AFFILIATION: Developer, sys admin

Python 3 is installed by default, and Python 2 is no longer installed by default on Ubuntu Server since 16.04.

Both versions can be installed concurrently. Python 2 is available under /usr/bin/python2 if it is installed. Python 3 is available under /usr/bin/python3 if it is installed.

/usr/bin/python points to Python 2 (or nothing, if Python 2 is not installed). This is the upstream recommendation from PEP 394 (https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/) and I don't see Ubuntu diverging from this unless upstream's recommendation changes.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop, Ubuntu Server

- HEADLINE: Windows subsystem

- DESCRIPTION: Windows 10 lets you install Ubuntu as a subsystem and use it without dual booting. In practice, we _need_ windows tools (like WebDeploy) or GUI tools (like Photoshop) at work but would much rather use Ubuntu in general. The compromise (ubuntu subsystem) works but the other way around would be much better. I'm fine with paying for Windows and also CLI tools only would still be a great start.

- ROLE/AFFILIATION: Software developer. I also introduced a lot of people to Linux over the years for home usage.

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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FLAVOR: Desktop HEADLINE: Pick an official laptop for the release. ROLE: End-user, Sysadmin, Developer I would love for Ubuntu to, with each release, pick a laptop vendor and a laptop and just Make It Work. All the components. Out of the box. As near perfect as one can get it. So when I'm in the market for a new laptop, I can just buy that one. And I'm not talking about a pro gear like the XPS. Just simple, cheap con…

Both Dell and System76 sell laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed.

Are you looking into some sort of certification of the sort "Ubuntu Verified"?

Re: Ask HN: What do you want to see in Ubuntu 17.10?

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- FLAVOR: Ubuntu Desktop - HEADLINE: Proper virtual desktop / spaces for multiple monitors (i.e. independent, per-monitor spaces) - DESCRIPTION: Right now it isn't possible to switch workspaces on two or more monitors independently. This is possible on Mac, and is a huge productivity boost. Coming home from work to use my personal Ubuntu machine always feels like a step backwards for this reason alone. I want to be a…

I can absolutely understand why you would want this, but for me it'd be a huge net negative. I'd guess that points towards it being a configurable option somewhere.
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