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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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No it's really not. "Damning with faint praise" is when, say, you've just effusively praised something else, and then say that the alternative is pretty good. The "least-worst option" means it's not good, but all the alternatives are terrible. That's not damning.

Googling around, the definition that comes up is: > Damning with faint praise is an English idiom for words that effectively condemn by seeming to offer praise which is too moderate or marginal to be considered praise at all. Which seems about right to me. It's like writing an employee a letter of reference, and only saying that they're very punctual - meaning that there's nothing else good about them, other than the…

"Damning with faint praise" is a pretty subtle English idiom. In my experience, it's only used to refer to an instance where someone is socially obligated to offer praise, e.g. a doctoral adviser writing a reference for their student, who gives such faint praise that they intend the recipient to infer that, were they allowed to, they would have been explicitly critical. Since the comment author in question was under no such obligation, I don't think the idiom applies.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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post #68

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For some reason the enterprise version doesn't support mercurial, it's only git.

It's because mercurial is legacy, like darcs, bzr, monotone, and the other zoo of "git-alikes" that were big in 2008. Now it's just like MacOS Classic in 2000: there are a few die-hard zealots who claim that the interface is better in some indescribable way, and everyone else has moved on.

Does this look like the commit log of a legacy product?

https://www.mercurial-scm.org/repo/hg/

Mercurial is very important for Facebook, Mozilla, Google, and others. The disparaging "legacy" monicker might be a good way to feel justified to not have to learn about it, but it's not dying software that is no longer getting updates.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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post #323

Great acquisition for Atlassian and I'm super pumped for the Trello team. The people here who are concerned that the culture will change are ill informed and likely haven't gone through an acquisition themselves. This makes perfect sense and look forward to seeing what's next for both companies.

> The people here who are concerned that the culture will change are ill informed and likely haven't gone through an acquisition themselves. No, but many have been users of companies that ended their beatiful journey soon after being acquired. I'm cautiously optimistic that Atlassian don't want to waste half-a-billion dollars.

It's good point and a valid concern (Parse). But I think there is value there for both Atlassian and Trello. I don't think this will be a bad thing for end user.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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post #329

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I wonder what founders who have sold their companies for a significant amount end up doing in the days after. It would be really interesting to know what's going on in your head right now.

omg, I'm going to have a boss! I'll be working at Atlassian. Lots of stuff to still do in the future to reach our (and my) goals. And now we're going to have a lot more fuel for our engines to get there.

SAAS founder here. Firstly congrats on such a great exit, you and your team certainly deserve it! I would love to know what "more fuel for our engines means"? How much cash you are you looking to burn? From most listed SAAS companies spend upward 80% on sales and marketing. Are you planning to do more enterprise sales?

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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post #34
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So... it's going to stop being free and start sucking?

What's wrong with it becoming a service you pay for? This is, in-fact, what you get when you entrust someone else's Software As a Service with your data and workflows... You do not own it, they do and it is their right to charge for it just as it would be your right to charge for some service you developed and maintained that people found useful. It is also your right to move your workflows elsewhere or to a desktop…

The fact that Trello got a lot of users by promising it would always remain free, for example? If I'd been a user I'd be rather upset about this sell-out. Fog Creek made it look like some nice side-project that others too could benefit from without ever worrying about having to pay for the basic version at any point. Sure they didn't owe anyone anything, but for me it confirms once again that no company can be trusted on their promises, ever. Now, of course we don't know yet whether the free basic tier is going to change, but we do know that (unless it's in the agreement) Fog Creek gave up control over their promise, which is prerequisite to keep it. Furthermore, I have the experience that few products survive an acquisition to keep the simple, successful formula they used to have.

Edit: fixed unintended mistake in the company name

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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post #322

This is depressing. Trello is a beloved software for a lot of people. It's sad that Trello decided to sell off to Atlassian. I can't believe the same company that makes Jira is going to run Trello. SourceTree is the only software that they make that doesn't suck.

For sure they won't change Trello to become like JIRA, and there is a little hope the JIRA UI will become more like Trello. So IMHO nothing to worry about.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Really? I'm pretty happy with it. Definitely better than Github desktop, and more full featured than the light git extensions you find in most editors. What Git GUI do you prefer?

GitKraken looks promising, and introduces some new UI concepts (drag and drop merging, for example). It's still fairly young but could be a competitor.

I've been using Fork (git-fork.com), and it's fantastic. Similar UI to SourceTree on the surface, but more obvious in other ways. It's blazing fast, and the author is super responsive to requests and to make fixes.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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post #272

This is really bad as Atlassian is like a prize winning show pony -- great marketing and webinars but once you get deeply into the product usage you find all sorts of problems and open issues. BitBucket has been waiting for 2FA for 5 years! Bambo was recently semi-retired going against a lot of users investments. And these are just recent. I would not expect wonderful things for Trello and thankfully it appears they…

I quite like Confluence (as in, better than Sharepoint as Wiki in enterprise gigs). But I'm always wondering if Confluence customers are aware that they're creating a huge data silo for their knowledge base documents that can only be accessed using proprietary Confluence software for years to come.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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post #193
post #68

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For some reason the enterprise version doesn't support mercurial, it's only git.

The reason is it's a completely unrelated product (previously known as "stash") that Atlassian pretends is somehow connected for branding reasons.

Yep, the two products are even written in separate languages!

Bitbucket Server is written in Java and bitbucket.org is written in Python.

I was dumbfounded when I found out they were two separate codebases.

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