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Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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Why do you assume that software developers don't need more power and/or CUDA cores, too? Development does not only consist of web development.

How many developers need more capacity than the new MacBook Pro but still less than the largest laptops offer? The few non-gamers I know who are still CPU/GPU-limited are using clusters of machines because no single machine is large enough and in most cases it's significantly cheaper to rent capacity for the few times when they need it rather than pay up-front for something which will be idle a fair percent of the ye…

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you are suggesting here.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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This is great news! I was a c# developer for many years and absolutely loved it. But then I gave up the Microsoft ecosystem 7 years back just because it felt like a lock-in and also a bit backward compared to non-MS tech. But in the past one year, Microsoft has got me in again: a. Moved to TypeScript from JavaScript (including my hobby projects) b. Moved to VSCode from Sublime c. C# is a great language and I just hat…

C# is a lot different today than it was 7 years ago. You might be in for a shock. The nice thing is you can develop it today as you did 7 years ago, but with heavy use of lambdas and var, it reads almost like another language.

Those improvements came out 9 years ago.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

> If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work... This is extremely dishonest assessment that only 'Developers' do professional work. Mac is used by Engineers, CAD/CAM, designers, illustrators, artists, musicians, etc and to reduce it only to developers is disingenuous. I for one is happy with the new Mac and there are several people who've found it great for 'pro' use.

I'm a developer and plan to get the new MacBook Pro. I just don't use function or escape keys that much. So, it seems like it's a subset of developers that are bothered by this.

I used Windows when I was young, then switched to Linux for 10 years professionally, and finally I switched to the Mac about 5 years ago. I find it much easier to use day-to-day than Linux. Especially using multiple displays in different offices.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #17

So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

Do most developers really need anything with a CPU more powerful than an iPhone 5 to build apps or web pages? In most cases if they do they're doing it wrong.

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're using a MBP at the moment - then you're already pressing the fn key to use the functions keys for anything other than the media-stuff they've been designed around for years. Your workflow is exactly the same - you're just using soft keys instead of physical ones.

You can change that setting, and I imagine most developers who rely on function keys do, so no I'm not already doing that.

Well then it's still exactly the same? You can either press fn or change your preferences. You opted for the latter. Do that again?

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #17

So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

Do most developers really need anything with a CPU more powerful than an iPhone 5 to build apps or web pages? In most cases if they do they're doing it wrong.

yes.

it's not needed if you're building a JavaScript app with Sublime text.

But compiled environments such as .Net take a lot of cpu and memory. It's not uncommon to have 2-4 visual studios open which can take up 10 gigs of ram. Couple that up with continuous build/unit test frameworks and 5-10 VS add-ons and you need a powerful machine to make it responsive

Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #17

So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

Do most developers really need anything with a CPU more powerful than an iPhone 5 to build apps or web pages? In most cases if they do they're doing it wrong.

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Re: Visual Studio for Mac

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post #17

So Microsoft is treating the Mac more seriously as a professional platform while Apple is treating it less seriously? I'm not saying this in a snarky way; I mean it literally as a change of corporate strategies in both companies. Microsoft seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly using the Mac for professional work, we want to do a better job of empowering you, and Apple seems to be saying, If you are a pro mainly…

Do most developers really need anything with a CPU more powerful than an iPhone 5 to build apps or web pages? In most cases if they do they're doing it wrong.

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