San Francisco Tech Firms See Workers Flee from $4,500 Rents

Post by warfangle » Wed, Apr 06, 2016, 12:25 AM UTC

ebiester wrote: post #195

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"a well-governed San Francisco could have positioned itself as the next NYC. The hub where all of tech gathers, the same way all of finance gathered in Wall St. Replace the 70 year old 2-storey homes with Manhattan style apartment buildings, and rent in San Francisco would have remained very reasonable, despite the rapid economic growth. This would have prevented exactly this problem where tech workers are forced to…

I've thought about that, but as far as I can tell, it means about $10-$15k of equipment and a dedicated work room. I need a mobile-connected "smart" whiteboard for every team member, a good microphone, webcam, speakers, a separate computer + monitor devoted to video conferencing, and a team that is geographically dispersed rather than partially-colocated. ...and hopefully, everyone has first class redundant internet,…

Post by grillvogel » Wed, Apr 06, 2016, 12:29 AM UTC

aetherson wrote: post #206

whack wrote: post #111

It's hard to overstate the impact this is going to have on San Francisco, long-term. As Technology becomes the most important industry in America, a well-governed San Francisco could have positioned itself as the next NYC. The hub where all of tech gathers, the same way all of finance gathered in Wall St. Replace the 70 year old 2-storey homes with Manhattan style apartment buildings, and rent in San Francisco would…

The idea that in-fill development could have possibly made a drastic change in rents in San Francisco is genuinely crazy . I see people making that claim all the time, and it's madness, guys. Even if literally every density-increasing project was rubber-stamped with zero money or time cost, how many housing units do you think that this city could possibly have added in the last fifteen years? Unless you're proposing…

Post by mahyarm » Wed, Apr 06, 2016, 12:40 AM UTC

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They go into higher-density buildings, just like everybody else. That, or nothing changes and they get priced out. Those are the options.

Except higher-density buildings still equally price people out. There's no such thing as new urban apartments/condos that are cheaper than the houses they replaced. A 500k house never gets torn down to become 3 400k condos. It becomes 3 600-800+k condos. We should build more, because we need it. But "build more" can't be the only tool to lower prices, because simple observation shows us that it doesn't work.

Post by mahyarm » Wed, Apr 06, 2016, 12:44 AM UTC

mcguire wrote: post #280

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Some algorithms require additional temporary space. Other algorithms can modify a data structure in place. Some data structures are very loosely spaced in memory as it is, and adding existing nodes is just about using up more of the existing memory capacity. Cities have been able to grow for centuries. The only thing stopping them from growing are zoning and restrictions prohibiting additional homes being built.

The tech industry in the Bay area has a large chunk of the population and a near infinite amount of money, and therefore near infinite political power. Blaming political systems seems a little...backward.

Post by mountaineer22 » Wed, Apr 06, 2016, 12:51 AM UTC

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Where in WV? I can't find food after 10pm.

Lewisburg, it means getting fast food or going to a tavern, but the choices are more than I had in the peninsula. Morgantown also has late hours in my experience, though you might have to walk to High St.