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Re: Meet Model X

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Post by wang_li »

raisedbyninjas wrote: post #270
ctdonath wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds silly to most, but there are situations where you don't want unfiltered outside air leaking in. If "seriously filtered cabin air supply" is relatively easy to add, there's no downside to adding it. Here around Atlanta, the pollen count can exceed 5000 for weeks (and 500 is considered "extremely high"); a good filter would be dearly appreciated by many. For an interesting comparison re: "bioweapon", consider th…

It's not silly at all. I wish I had this everyday that I'm sitting in traffic. My car has multiple climate control modes that default with the vent open. Some heater modes override the vent button and force me to use outside air. I actually know what the outside humidity is and the amount of car exhaust I want to suffer. But apparently that doesn't matter to Mazda.

If you don't have a steady flow of outside air into your car's cabin, you will soon die.

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Post by prawn »

kamaal wrote: post #332
prawn wrote: post #330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a huge, growing market for premium products in China. And the bioweapon filter feature wouldn't hurt with their pollution levels.

I think the point was affordability. There aren't a lot of people who will spend 150K+ on a car, where merely owning home(with no mortgage) is a luxury these days.

Sure, but my point is that the market for premium goods is growing and even a small sector within a massive country is a lot of potential customers.

Obviously their next car will be the one that is accessibly priced and sells in huge volume.

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Post by unfamiliar »

MichaelGG wrote: post #327
unfamiliar wrote: post #69

Those jeering idiots in the audience are so cringe-y. There is no need to cheer at literally everything Musk says. For example, showing you can get into the car is something I would expect.

Funniest part was when he talks about creating a new ultrasonic sensor that works through metal -- silence. You can see Elon sorta motion as in "hey... this was a bigger accomplishment than the seat design" but no one really catches on. Reminds me of the Apple launch event for ApplePay where the presenter showed the current "bad" way of paying with cards. The crowd went wild and he sorta looked at them like "uh, that…

I think the people were clapping because they agreed that it was an annoying way to pay.

https://youtu.be/0pmwR1SrK-Q?t=2648

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Post by TrevorJ »

votingprawn wrote: post #333
jedberg wrote: post #328

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Not all the time but sometimes for fun. I would do it a lot more in an electric because the "gas" is "free" (assuming it is charged with solar). At least it is something I can legally do, as opposed to going 155mph.

Oddly enough accelerating like that isn't always "legal". Where I'm from it could be classed as dangerous driving, and I believe in the USA it could fall under "Exhibition of Speed". By and large it is more efficient to accelerate at full power, assuming your goal is to reach a certain top speed regardless, so if you were _really_ concerned about conserving petrol then you should be going full blast off the line. Tha…

Huh, I just looked up my state's statute on this and it contained verbiage like "Includes, but not limited to". How the heck can they get away with defining a law so vaguely? I guess I wrongly assumed that a law had to actually define what it was making illegal.

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Post by astrange »

AYBABTME wrote: post #294
DEinspanjer wrote: post #6

Okay.. I'm a Model S owner and I love Tesla and I chuckled at the whole Insane mode and gave a bit of an amused snort at Ludicrous mode. This, however, really makes me wonder WTH is going on there: HEPA Air Filters "There are three modes: circulate with outside air, re-circulate inside air and a bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants ." EDIT: Very fair points about…

To me, those names come in line with: - Just Read the Instructions - Of Course I Still Love You ...and other silly, whimsically chosen names in the tradition of Culture spaceships (from the series by Iain Banks). Perhaps they're naming their special modes in a slightly similar vein?

Tesla's silly naming is a little more insidious than that. They started out naming their cars S E and X, only changing E to 3 to get around a Ford trademark.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by ctdonath »

wang_li wrote: post #341
raisedbyninjas wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not silly at all. I wish I had this everyday that I'm sitting in traffic. My car has multiple climate control modes that default with the vent open. Some heater modes override the vent button and force me to use outside air. I actually know what the outside humidity is and the amount of car exhaust I want to suffer. But apparently that doesn't matter to Mazda.

If you don't have a steady flow of outside air into your car's cabin, you will soon die.

The point is there's a difference between ambient outside air leaking into the car like a sieve, vs completely sealed with air supplied via biohazard rated filtration. Also, you'd be surprised how long you can function fine in a sealed box the size of a car cab.

If you haven't seen waves of pollen wafting thru the air for miles, like we regularly see near Atlanta, you may not grasp the interest.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by philwelch »

bluthru wrote: post #292
philwelch wrote: post #256

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35k is not something normal people can afford.

The average new car price is $33,560: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2015/05/04/new-car-... $35,000 should be a pretty great deal for an above-average car that uses inexpensive fuel and requires little maintenance.

Normal people don't all buy new cars, and they don't buy the average new car. They either buy used or they buy an entry-level new car, say in the 25k range at most. You can get a freaking Audi for 35k. Audis are not entry-level cars for normal people, they are luxury cars.

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by rsync »

The first thing I notice is the seats.

The same very, very unadjustable, very sparse seats that the model S has. I won't provide reference [1][2][3]'s here, but there are absolutely much, much better seats with many more adjustments available in the lower end 3 series / A4 / C class cars ... and this is a car with a 6 figure price tag.

The seats. I have never understood the seats in the model S (and now X).

edit: OK, so another thing ... the stick-on spoiler has always annoyed me on the model S. Very cheap and lame. I see that the new Model X has a retractable spoiler ... when will that arrive on the Model S ?

Re: Meet Model X

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Post by frrp »

DEinspanjer wrote: post #6

Okay.. I'm a Model S owner and I love Tesla and I chuckled at the whole Insane mode and gave a bit of an amused snort at Ludicrous mode. This, however, really makes me wonder WTH is going on there: HEPA Air Filters "There are three modes: circulate with outside air, re-circulate inside air and a bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants ." EDIT: Very fair points about…

> HEPA Air Filters "There are three modes: circulate with outside air, re-circulate inside air and a bioweapon defense mode that creates positive pressure inside the cabin to protect occupants." This is immensely useful in Chinese cities!

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Post by teekert »

warfangle wrote: post #208
teekert wrote: post #95

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" To qualify as HEPA by US government standards, an air filter must remove (from the air that passes through) 99.97% of particles that have a size of 0.3 µm." That means bacteria (1-10 µm) and spores (~1 µm) but not virusses (~ 100 nm +/- a lot) and certainly not molecules emitted by a skunk corpse.

Its activated charcoal filter has the primary layer, a secondary layer that filters sulfur gases, and a tertiary layer that filters alkaline gases. Skunk spray is made primarily of thiols and their acetate derivatives. Thiols (the main ugly smelling ones are both thiols) are organosulfur compounds, and would be filtered by the secondary chemical filter. The gases that make the decaying corpse smell are acidic (AFAIK)…

Ah, I didn't catch that, good comment.
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