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Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by hooplarbazaar »

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #312
dllthomas wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ApplePay seems to be doing things that others have basically done before, but doing it right in some important ways (credential on phone is for phone only, Apple doesn't get info on what you're buying), and I hope others follow suit.

Apple doesn't get info on what you're buying... and I hope others follow suit. As cynical marketing, I definitely see the value; in reality, not so much. Amazon, Visa, Petco, PayPal, BrianTree, etc. will still have a record of my purchases and we're on an inexorable march towards wider distribution of that data. How does Apple not having this data materially affect me?

That's very disingenuous. Amazon, PayPal and Google rely on selling your data and selling you products based on your data to make money. Visa, Mastercard and Amex mostly rely on transaction processing fees, and make extra money on the data processing in a very limited way.

What Apple are doing is removing the middleman, purely making this about transactions, not data. This means they're avoiding selling private information as a revenue stream.

This affects you, it causes a filter bubble http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble and means you're effectively less free to make a truly informed decision.

So not sharing your private information by default, is fundamental to your freedom. That's why we should all care, and why this is a great decision by Apple.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by krzrak »

Zikes wrote: post #318
sbarre wrote: post #304

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And you really think people should lose their jobs over this? What's wrong with you?

Well, that's sort of how business works, isn't it? I mean, they didn't just pick a few random techs and say "make this happen", they have people whose very job is the technology involved in making this thing happen. If someone demonstrates they fundamentally can't do their job, do you keep them on the payroll or do you find someone else who can get the job done?

I am sure they are the best for such jobs in the future - they won't screw up next time :)

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by Jack000 »

julianpye wrote: post #307
yumraj wrote: post #284

Is it just me or the iWatch "looks" really ugly, at least when compared with Moto 360 which looks beautiful. iWatch may win out on functionality and user experience etc., but it just looks funky.

The crazy part is the Gold 'Edition' Version. It's not like a Swiss watch, which is sold to be passed on to new generations, since your children won't be happy to get such outdated tech. What will they do with old Gold versions? Smelt them?

makes perfect sense to me. People wear watches these days for 1. fashion 2. status symbol (see omega, longines etc)

this just covers the status symbol portion of the market

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by eli »

brotchie wrote: post #266

ApplePay: I do this every day and have been doing this every day for the last year with my Android phone in Australia! edit Admittedly the integration of all different types of cards with Passbook is good stuff!

Sure, and there were MP3 players for years before iPod

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by LanceJones »

cylinder wrote: post #138
e0m wrote: post #116

Anyone else seeing the TV Truck schedule instead of the keynote right now?

10:07 and still black bars. Idiots. Edit- Getting it now, but I'm hearing a translator talking under Cook. Get it together. Edit2 - stream keeps cutting out. Disaster. Edit3 - Access Denied. And we're done.

Laughing out loud here because this was exactly my internal dialog as I tried to tune in. You nailed it -- Apple definitely did not.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by gooseus »

Question that I didn't hear addressed anywhere in the talk or online yet.

Will the NFC capability be exposed to third party apps through the SDK in any way?

I'm curious because they started talking about the apps for iWatch right after talking about its features, but they didn't discuss NFC in any other context but its use via Apple Pay.

What do you all think?

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by fluidcruft »

gone35 wrote: post #326
yumraj wrote: post #284

Is it just me or the iWatch "looks" really ugly, at least when compared with Moto 360 which looks beautiful. iWatch may win out on functionality and user experience etc., but it just looks funky.

I was about to comment the exact same thing. Perhaps it looks better in person, but honestly I find it weirdly jarring and just wrong --I never thought I would feel such distaste for a millennial Apple device. It's a shame: if it looked like the Moto 360 (except with a fully-round screen), it would have been quite something... But then de gustibus non est disputandum , so please don't flame me if you disagree! (PD: A…

Maybe Motorola beat Apple to the PTO with a design patent for a circle.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by derengel »

jerhinesmith wrote: post #206
dublinben wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not get one of the many other mITX computers, or even an Intel NUC?

I use a macbook air all day for work. I built my windows box when I was doing .NET development, but I've long since switched to ruby -- ideally I'd like to have both running the same OS (which I guess could be a flavor of linux, but I'm too lazy for that).

Do you use to the mba without an external monitor and keyboard? I can seem to adjust to developing all day on laptop, thus wanting a mac mini upgrade.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by dublinben »

anigbrowl wrote: post #243

I can't watch any of the video (using Chrome) so I'm just watching the live updates on the website instead with bullet points...which is apparently a lot more useful than the video feed. 200 comments and nobody is discussing the technology, what a shame after all that build-up. Anyway the new iPhone looks more like a Samsung in terms of size, screen resolution etc. but presumably with a significant Apple technical ed…

The hardware decisions of the iPhone 6 (and especially 6 plus) closely follow what Android manufacturers have been doing for years.

Re: Apple – Live – September 2014 Special Event

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Post by dllthomas »

CoffeeDregs wrote: post #312
dllthomas wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ApplePay seems to be doing things that others have basically done before, but doing it right in some important ways (credential on phone is for phone only, Apple doesn't get info on what you're buying), and I hope others follow suit.

Apple doesn't get info on what you're buying... and I hope others follow suit. As cynical marketing, I definitely see the value; in reality, not so much. Amazon, Visa, Petco, PayPal, BrianTree, etc. will still have a record of my purchases and we're on an inexorable march towards wider distribution of that data. How does Apple not having this data materially affect me?

Apple not having the data isn't dramatically more important than others not having the data, but having the data in fewer places is better for privacy (and the security thereof) and if "others follow suit" then they will start to not have that data. That said, Apple not having the data is more important than some players not having the data - there's more power in the consolidation of more kinds of data, and in a more complete picture of each kind of data, than in any individual datum in isolation - Apple touches large swathes of the lives of Apple users.
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