Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23 • Hacker News Board

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by EpicEng » Sun, Jul 13, 2014, 12:22 AM UTC

barrkel wrote: post #329

EpicEng wrote: post #273

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Well, I don't know; why are 15 year olds walking the streets at 1 a.m.? Something is wrong there 99.99% of the time. I don't think they should be arrested though, just returned home. I had cuffs thrown on me for curfew when I was 16 or so. No arrest, but seriously, cuffed and thrown into a pen.

Me, I was walking home from a friend's house after staying up late pair programming on the weekend. Me, in '95. No curfews in Ireland, of course.

One exception does not disprove the rule, and honestly, I wouldn't let my kid walk home at that hour.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by EpicEng » Sun, Jul 13, 2014, 12:23 AM UTC

watwut wrote: post #303

EpicEng wrote: post #273

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Well, I don't know; why are 15 year olds walking the streets at 1 a.m.? Something is wrong there 99.99% of the time. I don't think they should be arrested though, just returned home. I had cuffs thrown on me for curfew when I was 16 or so. No arrest, but seriously, cuffed and thrown into a pen.

This kind of thinking, right here is a problem. The "something is wrong there" assumption is wrong all too often. The assumption that the situation requires cops is wrong too - the wrong thing is most likely a parenting issue and should be dealt with by parents. Do not take me wrong, I do plan to restrict my kids movements in age appropriate ways and if they are out at 1 a.m. it better be for good reason and with my…

"Should be dealt with by parents", I agree. Often, it is not, so the community has to do something. I don't mind a curfew for kids, but I don't think it should be a criminal offense either.

Re: Study: Half of black males, 40% of white males arrested by age 23

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Post by BugBrother » Sun, Jul 13, 2014, 3:54 PM UTC

alexeisadeski3 wrote: post #302

BugBrother wrote: post #294

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My first reaction was that it reads to be about American culture (and wonder if 'schrodinger' is Swedish, racism accusations are used as often as "hej" these days). My second reaction is trying to replace 'white' with 'black'. Also, considering the heterogeneity of different parts of USA... OK, racist.

Culture.

Much too late, but my explicit point was:

It sounded like culture to me too, until I replaced the word "white" with "black" in my head.

If I should say anything more: There is a limit of different standards for different groups (somewhere between a factor two and five), when it becomes disgusting hypocrisy.