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Re: Google Web Designer

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> Consumers have a vote on how the web should be designed, too. Exactly the wrong-headed sense of entitlement I'm talking about. No, you absolutely do not get a say, whatsoever. You either get the product through the monetization scheme set up by the content owner, or you get no content at all.

Your foot stamping and insistence that people shouldnt have any control over site content does not infact change the technical reality that they do, being as its their client on their machine displaying what they tell it to. Its better to just accept this fact and work with it than attempt to boil the ocean. one might also ask about what kind of entitlement an attitude like yours is bringing to the table.

I guess the mindset comes from TV/Radio land where content is just dished up, and there is only one way to consume it, or you can stop consuming it.

It's probably more an issue of, we are in a difficult situation where some businesses don't know how to monetize outside of advertising (like google). And if everyone could block them, you'd effectively destroy businesses like that.

But on the flip side, the advert business model have gotten everyone used to 'free'. If google started selling "Search packs" where you get 100 searchs for $20, I don't think people would go for it.

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> “Drastically?” The vast majority of the web developers I know use OS X. I'm guessing most (all?) the developers you know work in the US? Mac OS is close to nonexistent in that area in the rest of the world. Trying to sell an app competing against a free product from Google is already challenging enough, you should seriously consider the original advice and extend your tool to work on Windows as well.

By 'rest of the world' you must be discounting Australia then ;)

As an Australian, I've always thought of our country as the real-world embodiment of what Americans believe when they think of their own country...

Re: Google Web Designer

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Google itself doesn't scare me; it is really just team vs. team. I think we've got the best product and engineering expertise for this market. Clearly I'm biased :) so I'd encourage anyone to try Tumult Hype and let us know your thoughts (we've got a fully functional 14-day trial on the site). While Google hasn't announced pricing, it is probably safe to say it is going to be free. This is a business for us, so we ch…

I would love to check out your product, but it only runs on OSX. You might consider a port to drastically expand your potential client base. Google's free offering is cross platform already.

Cross platform but not Linux. That's "limited" when you do web development.

Re: Google Web Designer

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“Drastically?” The vast majority of the web developers I know use OS X. And, I guess, most of the marketers, too.

Wow really? Where (in what bubble) do you live?

Silicon Valley is a well known "home" for OSX.

Re: Google Web Designer

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It doesn't say anything about Linux, but I guess more than one platform is technically "cross platform" :(

Yep, and I hate it when they use "PC" as a synonym for Microsoft Windows. I do have a PC!

Yeah, and a Mac is a PC, internally speaking too. So, it should OS based : OSX, Windows. This, coming from the number 1 tech company in the world. Kinda disappointing.

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I would love to check out your product, but it only runs on OSX. You might consider a port to drastically expand your potential client base. Google's free offering is cross platform already.

Too bad those platforms don't include Linux & FreeBSD.

Sadly Google has more or less stopped supporting Linux on desktop since Larry Page came into office (Picasa and others...). Hardly surprising. Even though at Google everyone uses a flavor of Ubuntu for their desktops.

Re: Google Web Designer

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Well then. I suppose you are also opposed to * pop-up blocking * cookie blocking * readability ..all of which are common browser features now. Because you can just not visit bad sites. Yeah, didn't think so.

The only relevant thing you've mentioned in your list is pop-up blocking, which is a subset of advertising (cookie blocking doesn't prevent impression and click tracking, and Readability has nothing to do with ad blocking, as the most common use case for Readability is after you've visited a page already). Blocking one form of advert is not even slightly the same as blocking all forms of adverts. There is an implicit…

You've turned a technical question into a moral one. Don't do that.

Re: Google Web Designer

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How do you feel about having Google as a direct competitor?

Google itself doesn't scare me; it is really just team vs. team. I think we've got the best product and engineering expertise for this market. Clearly I'm biased :) so I'd encourage anyone to try Tumult Hype and let us know your thoughts (we've got a fully functional 14-day trial on the site). While Google hasn't announced pricing, it is probably safe to say it is going to be free. This is a business for us, so we ch…

It may be tough, but porting your application to Windows would be a great idea and help you compete against Google in the long run. Good luck with it, and from what I've checked around on your website it seems like a great tool/competitor to Google!

(I'm on a Mac, still I have Windows machines and know a huge amount of web-developers who abide by Windows)

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