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I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

> Above all other things, internet communities is what makes me cynical about humanity.

What makes an internet community any different from any "other" community? They are both human social constructs. The only difference I would argue is that online communities are much more public about their members' views. "Offline" communities can often hide under a veil of an organizational hierarchy of structure (usually in the form of a representative such as "head of").

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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I don't know if you've ever had to do any significant writing on a manual typewriter, but it is a very difficult process. It would much, much easier to write it out long hand (he has great hand writing, as can be seen on his sign.). Even better would be to write it up o a laptop, let the customer view it on the screen, then email it to them later. Or, write it up on a phone with a $20 Bluetooth keyboard and email it…

You seriously think you can't type on a typewriter? As to doing it electronicly, he deals with that issue, a electronic story email would have little value to most people. ---------------- My favorite exchange was between “I_thrive_on_apathy” and “dlins”: i_thrive_on_apathy: What the fuck is he going to do with that typed page? Scan it? Dlins: you do realize things have value even if they're not digitized, right? i_t…

you are both right.

while the typewriter may or may not be a convenient tool for producing hardcopy outside in a park, it's most definitely also for purposes of grabbing people's attention.

and it makes a lot of noise, I'm assuming.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. The post to which you're replying didn't even mention Reddit. Reddit is by no means the only place where a nerdy demographic (and I'll define 'nerdy demographic' as 18-25 that skew towards STEM education and exhibit above-average internet usage)…

The article mentions Reddit being the place where C.D. Hermelin was textually abused for being a hipster; or more accurately, accused of being a hipster solely because he was using a typewriter. Reddit is the only place where the internet nerds in discussion come from. Reddit however is not made up of internet nerds. Reddit is made up of average joes who know enough about computers to register at facebook and reddit.…

Reddit is as rife with "hipsters" as any venue. The idea that its community would lash out against a perceived hipster is pathetic self-loathing and projection.

After Digg sold out and became a spam site, many of us migrated to Reddit. And then we abandoned it, after a couple hundred "this little guy followed me home" posts about puppies and whatever other attention-whoring crap dominated the front page.

Reddit is the last community that should be condemning "hipsters." Talk about hypocrisy. Or should I say hipocracy.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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post #120

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Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. In any case, talk about much ado about absolutely nothing. A bunch of people said silly things, largely under the assumption that it was no consequence (that no one was hurt, etc): In many ways the comments on there are performance art. It is th…

Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. The post to which you're replying didn't even mention Reddit. Reddit is by no means the only place where a nerdy demographic (and I'll define 'nerdy demographic' as 18-25 that skew towards STEM education and exhibit above-average internet usage)…

Whatever a "STEM education" is.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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>Thinking about her own troubles in creating something viral, she remarked, “It’s too bad you can’t figure out a way to exploit this somehow.” Other than sometimes posting my Twitter handle on pages where I saw the picture, I couldn’t do much. Since this is hackernews, it would be interesting to discuss this portion. What would be the best way to use this to propel oneself into success? It seems he was granted a stro…

See now this is a good point. I was thinking along similar lines, reading the article. Automatically thinking, "could this guy have handled this better?".

I want to make clear that I don't blame him, all he did was sell people live-typewritten short stories in the park. It's quirky, nothing that deserves Internet-wide ridicule (which happened because of the cropping of the photo, not the quirkiness per se). Also I don't think his clothes are that out of the ordinary, definitely on the "hipster" side as styles go, but many people wear this style, and indeed if you're buying clothes on a budget there's often not much choice: either you get something really shabby, or you have to pick one of the current youth main stream fashion styles. In that case I'd go with "hipster" too.

Anyway, what I thought was, if right that day when he hit Reddit's FP, he'd have made a simple webpage (could even be a Tumblr blog with one post in it) with roughly the first part of the story in this article--aka what he actually does and why he's doing it. Also, if he had one laying around, an uncropped picture of him with the typewriter and the sign.

The idea being, he explains that even in the Reddit thread (threads?) some people came to his defence. Giving them something easy to link to, makes that a lot easier. Especially if the topic comes up again on some other sub-reddit, the whole shaming-then-"oh wait he's just trying to make a buck, sorry" can be cut short if one of the first commenters just links to that page.

Basically what this does, is give you a communications medium back to your audience. Yes he now has an audience. That's how it goes in the 21st century sometimes.

Also write that URL tiny in the corner on the back of his paper. It's better than a Twitter account.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Please explain how the internet is not populated a teeming mass of faceless opportunists, deliberately avoiding any and all efforts to be controlled. You are fucking wrong. Your fragments in strike two are literally paragraphs apart, and ignore huge details that add context. But even so, there's nothing evil about asking someone you know personally, when they've openly told you they're going to write about you, if yo…

Please turn off your computer, go outside, and have some fresh air. Your health is important to me regardless of how often you create a new account just to pull an XKCD 386 with foul language.

Strike 1/2/3:

   I asked.. to.. Strike.. hipsters
Hurray! I can misquote as well :D

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

#337

Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. In any case, talk about much ado about absolutely nothing. A bunch of people said silly things, largely under the assumption that it was no consequence (that no one was hurt, etc): In many ways the comments on there are performance art. It is th…

Even though people from all walks of life visit Reddit, that does not mean every demographic is equally represented.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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post #255

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For example, I would hardly call the typical user of /r/TalesFromYourServer to be a 20-25 year old male STEM-educated nerd.

I'm going to guess that this was not posted in /r/TalesFromYourServer. The mere fact that it attracted so many comments means that it was posted on one of the "average" reddits.

It was posted on /r/nyc. Which isn't a default sub-reddit, but would probably still be subscribed by "average" users.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. In any case, talk about much ado about absolutely nothing. A bunch of people said silly things, largely under the assumption that it was no consequence (that no one was hurt, etc): In many ways the comments on there are performance art. It is th…

Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. The post to which you're replying didn't even mention Reddit. Reddit is by no means the only place where a nerdy demographic (and I'll define 'nerdy demographic' as 18-25 that skew towards STEM education and exhibit above-average internet usage)…

> above-average internet usage

I doubt that internet usage is any longer a measure of how "nerdy" a person is.

There are teenagers, especially girls, constantly using internet-based services from their cell phones to communicate with other people for most of the time they spend awake [1,2,3]. Would you call them "nerdy"? I doubt.

[1] http://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/social-media/...

[2] Madden, Mary; Lenhart, Amanda; Duggan, Maeve; Cortesi, Sandra; Gasser, Urs. "Teens and Technology 2013," Pew Internet & American Life Project and Harvard's Berkman Society for Internet & Society, March 13, 2013. http://www.pewinternet.org/~/media//Files/Reports/2013/PIP_T...

[3] Reidulf G. Watten, Jo Kleiven, Knut Inge Fostervold, Halvor Fauskeand Frode Volden. "Gender Profiles of Internet and Mobile Phone Use among Norwegian Adolescents" http://seminar.net/images/stories/vol4-issue3/watten_et_al-g...

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

#340
Here's a good example of how we judge people by there appearance.

We're not all photogenic or very aware of our appearance we may actually look like something we are not. Like this guy.

He may look like a hipster but he's just an average guys trying to get by.

The lesson is simple. Don't judge people on how they look talk to them and then decide.

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