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I love how everyone knows this has nothing to do with kids safety. However no one can or is willing to put up a fight. In the UK where I live its the same. Government does whatever they want and most of us just shrug our shoulders and say "that's messed up" and go on about our day.
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AFAIK they were implemented by Microsoft staff.
It was not. It was implemented by Dylan Taylor, an outside contributor who works at a fintech company in North Carolina, and has made it his hobby to submit PRs implementing age verification to all kinds of projects. The systemd maintainer who clicked "merge" (Luca Boccassi) does work at Microsoft.
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> I really don't think we're in a position of choosing between no age-based access mechanism, and age-based access mechanism. It is impossible to win a battle you stop fighting.
But it's possible to lose a battle you were never going to win in the first place, and end up in a worse place. I think that if these types of laws (illinois, california) don't hit a critical mass, we're going to see ID verification become the dominant method of age verification. Most websites will use it, and it'll become global because it's easier to just demand an ID and a photo for every user through some third p…
Hey, give credit where credit's due.
The first to try that was NJ going after 3d printed gun developers.
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> I think that if these types of laws (illinois, california) don't hit a critical mass, we're going to see ID verification become the dominant method of age verification. You are assuming that age verification must necessarily happen. It needs to be destroyed at every possible juncture.
What is your objection to the California law? A summary for those not familiar with it: • Operating systems on devices whose primary user is a child must provide a way for the parent to provide age bracket information about the child. • They must also provide an API that apps and app stores can use to find out that age range if they need to have limits on what children can do with them. • They amended it to not apply…
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Is is also clear that there are major deficits in our Constitution but that the amendment process has failed to survive a modern world. Any of our original forefathers would recognize today's American federal government as an overreach from their indended form of government. The only reason we aren't seeing a Boston Tea Party 2.0 over the recent string of coordinated assaults against our inalienable human rights is b…
Yeah but most of y’all wouldn’t accept the imprisonment willingly.
Have you been to prison? I've been incarcerated before already after having my rights violated. Let's not go there. Make less assumptions.
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when it comes to commerce it isn't because it makes doing business impossible. How is this practically going to look, Canonical, Red Hat and open source maintainers are going to ship 50 different Linux distributions in the United States? The reason the US has fairly robust interstate commerce laws is because if you don't you'll have trade barriers between states. Even the most well intentioned internet company can't…
Yes the constitution specifically identifies commerce as something Congress has the power to regulate. That doesn't mean states can't have their own rules. Many states have various forms of legalized cannibis, different laws regulating firearms, or automotive emissions.
I look forward to these laws being shut down in the courts.
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I'll bite. His statements in this very forum could he used against him as evidence of intent to violate the law, should he be prosecuted someday. There's a reason why lawyers generally advise their clients to remain silent.
> There's a reason why lawyers generally advise their clients to remain silent. Most people prioritize their finances (and non-imprisonment) over their rights, and attorneys will optimize for that expressed preference. GP has clearly indicated his priorities are different. That has nothing to do with intelligence. Someone having a different set of values than you does not constitute unintelligence on his part.
If the actual priority here is advocacy, with no real desire to litigate, then I'd buy that.
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Sometimes when you see your opponents getting out a ramp and a barrel of lube, you can call it a slippery slope.
Or alternatively - you could recognize that normal people are getting more and more pissed off by the fact that social media companies are force-feeding garbage into their kids eyeballs 16 hours a day. We could give them a reasonable solution that demonstrably preserves privacy and doesn't inconvenience anyone else (Suppose you want to see all the uncensored everything, you open your new PC or phone and say your DOB…
What your happier future looks like requires both a technical solution, but more importantly political wins to sell that solution as the better one.
The current operating systems weighted by users, are entirely under the control of three major players, who are incentivised to further centralise things.
( I'm counting the three operating systems as Google Play Services, IOS and Windows. Yes, AOSP exists, but it's useless without Google Play Services. ).
I also don't think a device level switch would stop anything for a second, given the number of stories of parents who seem to hand their children their credit card, then complain about them racking up thousands of dollars on Roblox or whatever.
When the light-touch measures fail, the framework will be leveraged to start requiring more centralised and less private solutions.
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It started with showing ID at airports and now we have to take off our shoes. Slippery slope is the actual modus operandi of government.
That argument might work better if just recently we no longer have to take off our shoes.
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It started with showing ID at airports and now we have to take off our shoes. Slippery slope is the actual modus operandi of government.
...we don't have to take off shoes anymore at US airports though.