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For those like me wondering if he's also the creator of the Dvorak keyboard, no but close! > He is a nephew of sociologist August Dvorak, creator of the Dvorak keyboard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Dvorak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_keyboard_layout

Did you ever meet someone in the real world using the Dvorak ayout?

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For those like me wondering if he's also the creator of the Dvorak keyboard, no but close! > He is a nephew of sociologist August Dvorak, creator of the Dvorak keyboard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Dvorak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dvorak_keyboard_layout

Wait, you mean the Dvorak keyboard isn't named after the order of its letters like Querty??! How are you supposed to remember it then? Or is there also a keyboard inventor named Querty?

Its Qwerty/z, not Querty :-)

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It was great until Leo went off the deep end and lost 99% of his audience.

I used to listen to so many TwiT podcasts 10+ years ago. But then slowly lost interest and I don't remember why. But they used to be awesome. FLOSS weekly, Security Now, MacBreak Weekly, etc. But a few years ago, I found out there were some scandals at TwiT, etc, but the network still seems to be going on though.

What were the scandals? I still listen to TWIT and MBW, but they are so long and too preachy sometimes. If you get past that and some other things (constant AI talk), they are still good shows.

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So many people who have big personalities on the internet are like that. My example is Erik Naggum. I spent a lot of time with him and the gulf between his in-person and on-line personas was vast. Trivia: I took both the pics of him on his wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Naggum

Had he acted in real life the way he did on c.l.l, I strongly suspect he would have been punched a lot more often. Certainly one eulogy I read of him led with the sentence: "Erik Naggum was the first person I killfiled in GNUS." On the other hand, I have heard only good things from people who interacted with him one-on-one though (whether in-person or electronically). His technical content was almost always high-qual…

Around the time of his ascent in comp.lang.lisp is when I stopped reading it. It was just flame wars, and I think he had a good bit of the responsibility.

Seeing his dual personalities was the first time I experienced this. It didn't bode well, that's for sure.

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So many people who have big personalities on the internet are like that. My example is Erik Naggum. I spent a lot of time with him and the gulf between his in-person and on-line personas was vast. Trivia: I took both the pics of him on his wikipedia page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_Naggum

I’m not sure what I expected the first time I met him, but I wasn’t too surprised that he was actually easy to get along with. Most intelligent people actually are in real life. Yes, he could be harsh online, but he also had a sense of humor about the persona he had created for himself online. And it was a persona. That doesn’t mean he was tolerant of stupidity, or what he saw as stupidity, in real life, but face to…

Yeah, I miss him, too. I think about how he died alone. What a terrible thing.

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I thought i'd share one side of John C Dvorak you might not know about. I worked with him on Cranky Geeks but then I mentioned we should do a show where he gets to be even more over the top and grumpy about tech news. He mentioned he had a fake beard in his trunk ... and the Techgrouch was born!

In case you never saw it here's a link to a few episodes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BZF36HhYh8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSlTzR-LWGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_VjQGOPi8g

Grumpy comedy shows aside ..he was always so supportive of everyone and always interested in their lives, from interns to fellow hosts, everyone got the same amount of interest (and jabs!). He would always say such complimentary stuff about me when others were around. I never forgot that. I regret that we didnt have the time to bring back the show (something he wanted to do).

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I laughed at one I happened to spot recently, where he confidently said that Compaq would license Micro Channel from IBM according to "sources".

It’s amusing how nerdy IBM was back then: “Oh we’ve come up with a better bus design! Why isn’t everyone flocking to buy our product?”

I don't think "nerdy" is the right term here. MCA was a deliberate attempt by IBM to reassert walled-garden control over the PC architecture. The fact that Compaq would have had to license it from them in the first place makes that clear.

Other vendors saw through this and instead established an industry consortium to define royalty-free standards for ISA and its successors, which surpassed MCA in technical capability soon enough.

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I've never read any of his economics (didn't know until today that he was one) and formed an opinion based only on his tech press writing. Interesting that he was on the board of TSMC! > I suspect his economic ideas were more premature than wrong. I don't think economics is a time-dependent field. Apparently he favoured more government involvement in industry, which I believe has rarely if ever worked out well anywhe…

Re: ...more government involvement in industry,... See the American School of Economics (19th century), China from Deng onward, industrial policy in Japan (Meiji Restoration, post-WWII), Germany (pre- and post-WWII), Israel, South Korea (post-WWII, particularly 1970 onward), the US (particularly FDR/WWII, also Cold War and much since), just off the top of my head. Whilst it's quite true that government involvement ca…

Humans are generally bad at predicting patterns in long-term and large-scale systems, especially those that emerge from their own micro-level choices and intentions. Large institutions tend to distill complexity into singular, centralized decision points, which means they rely more on more on speculative attempts to predict outcomes as the scale of their operations increases.

The examples of government intervention that you've cited mostly represent situations in which countries that already had more centralized government and broader economic intervention sought to purposefully imitate the industrial development that had emerged mostly organically in England due to its comparative lack of economic interventionism. And those efforts largely consisted of rolling back top-down interventions that had locked economies into increasingly obsolete patterns, and instead purposefully creating conditions for markets to develop.

Smith worrying about concentration of economic power is valid, but ultimately, there's no fundamental difference between governments and commercial corporations in this regard. They're both centralizing institutions operating on essentially equivalent incentive structures, managed by people with the same assumptions and conceits. Centralization itself is the problem, and polarizing around which type of organization we should favor universalizing it's failure modalities across the whole of society is more than a little silly.

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> to anything Trump does or says I can't think of many things he has said that I would agree with. On top of that he's usually angry and spiteful in pretty much everything he says. Why would I not be in constant opposition to that?

>On top of that he's usually angry and spiteful in pretty much everything he says. Are you really under the impression that's the truth?

Where did I imply that?
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