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What's the "nines" of uptime on a typical corporate desktop? By my back of the envelope calculations it's worse than 3.
I'll take "Google downtime" (a damn small amount) over any other sort of downtime (Rackspace, AWS US-EAST-1, the hardware on my desk ) any day of the week.
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I used to run my own one-user email system. The hosting alone cost $240 a year. And I had to spend a lot of time configuring exim4 (and spamassassin and clam-av), figuring out which email indexer to use, setting up offlineimap, running cron jobs to archive mailing lists, coercing a friend to run a secondary MX for me, etc., etc. I didn't enjoy it all. And no matter what I did to reduce spam, about 10 messages a day a…
All you need is a forwarding service to forward the incoming mail to your gmail account, as regular personal gmail can handle sending out email with a different from address. No exim4, no spamassassin, no clam-av, no figuring out which indexer to use, or any of that. Just a forward on the incoming mail.
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by cutting off free users they just opened themselves to getting undercut by a smaller company that can offer fewer, cheaper, targeted options. I just wanted an email for my domain and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. I'll just set up my own email system at this point, call it a learning experience and never be exposed to the rest of whatever was in Google Apps.
I do this. It's not easy, but it's not as bad as most of the comments here would lead you to believe. If you have the wherewithal to run things on a server it's definitely within reach, albeit probably not a cost-effective way to spend your time. Let me make a few recommendations. I'm not a sysadmin by trade but I know a few things you can do that will improve your lot in life running mail. - Postfix and Dovecot. The…
I ran a linksys NSLU2 as my mail server for a few years, with a USB stick as its storage. With Debian linux with Dovecot, Postfix, spamassassin, and the Spamhaus DNSBLs set up I managed to keep the signal to noise ratio pretty damn high too.
It was fun, and remarkably not hard.
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You only have to worry about them anyway if you have crappy passwords or stupid users.
Ah, ok. Thanks. (I ask because I'm still trying to get an idea of just how vulnerable your garden-variety server is, user stupidity aside)
If you've got a "garden variety" server with a strong password, I wouldn't worry.
I've got a laptop slung on the end of my ADSL line that has had literally millions of attempts.
If you are worried, you can install fail2ban which will block repeated attacks at the firewall level.
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by cutting off free users they just opened themselves to getting undercut by a smaller company that can offer fewer, cheaper, targeted options. I just wanted an email for my domain and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. I'll just set up my own email system at this point, call it a learning experience and never be exposed to the rest of whatever was in Google Apps.
I do this. It's not easy, but it's not as bad as most of the comments here would lead you to believe. If you have the wherewithal to run things on a server it's definitely within reach, albeit probably not a cost-effective way to spend your time. Let me make a few recommendations. I'm not a sysadmin by trade but I know a few things you can do that will improve your lot in life running mail. - Postfix and Dovecot. The…
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Most people pay more than $50 (or even $100 or $200) a year for far less useful services than a managed collaboration suite with full support. To put it in perspective, Netflix costs ~$108 a year. People have no issues spending $4 a day on a latte, but just 13 lattes costs more than a year of Google Apps. A single latte or a big mac meal at mcdonalds costs more than an entire month of google apps for you.
I always hate these comparisons because they have no basis in reality. Food, drugs, and sex are basic human drives. You can't compare them to something as ephemeral as email.
And then there's coffee, which exceeds them all :)
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I use Google Apps because I want to use GMail, but with my own domain. That's it. I'm not an enterprise. I don't need more support than regular GMail users. I don't have special needs, like managing what services are allowed. I just don't want a @gmail.com address. I see people here defending this move, but think of how services like Google+ make mandatory an email address that's managed by Google. That email address…
If that's all you want, go to nearlyfreespeech, set up your domain there, and tell it to forward emails to your gmail account. Your gmail account then can send email under that name. I did it for quite a while.
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You only have to worry about them anyway if you have crappy passwords or stupid users.
Ah, ok. Thanks. (I ask because I'm still trying to get an idea of just how vulnerable your garden-variety server is, user stupidity aside)
And if you use SSH keys you should be totally safe.
Remember to apply security fixes though since the automatic attacks also probe for ancient versions of SSH servers.
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by cutting off free users they just opened themselves to getting undercut by a smaller company that can offer fewer, cheaper, targeted options. I just wanted an email for my domain and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. I'll just set up my own email system at this point, call it a learning experience and never be exposed to the rest of whatever was in Google Apps.
Will your own email system have 99.9% uptime, two-step authentication, an amazing web interface, blazing speed, and IMAP/Exchange/POP3 access?
That is BS and Google knows it
Why? Because Google can suspend your account at a whim and not even tell you why.
Google did that to a friend of mine, yes, paid account, yes called support line, they basically said "tough, it may return in 48h"