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Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by ebbi »

spwa4 wrote: post #225
Sabinus wrote: post #208

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While we're posting Wikipedia links about Nazi collaboration: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amin_al-Husseini

I'd like to add, dragging in Hitler because none of WW2 can be explained without him, and the parent poster posted details about the conflict that immediately preceded the independence of the state of Israel. Right before that, WW2 happened and so what happened in the 2 cannot be seen separate from each other. Hence both sides' behavior during WW2 should be seen as part of the context of what David Ben-Gurion was doi…

You purposely trying to claim Hussaini was 'the pope' of Muslims as though he was a central figure of authority that spoke for Muslims/Palestinians just shows how biased you are - not surprising, given your constant bias on this topic on many other posts.

A cursory study on Islam will show you that Islam doesn't have a central figure of authority like the Pope. Therefore what Hussaini did, was him as an individual, and not a decision that can be attributed to all Muslims/Palestinians.

So the fact remains that Zionists as a group collaborated with the Nazis. Hussainin acted as an individual.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by lorecore »

throw853367 wrote: post #332
lorecore wrote: post #328

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No, why would I? Also, mods: what's up with all these brand new accounts spamming this thread with pro-Israel propaganda?

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Allowing the Palestinians to return to their stolen homes and not be genocided is not "blood and soil racism". Zionism is, just without the blood part.

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by TiredOfLife »

throw310822 wrote: post #37
hsuduebc2 wrote: post #7

If you try very hard, you can understand the reason for bombardment, at least from the BEGINNING. Surely, not the reason for killing these poor children. But I never came to better conclusion about West Bank annexation that that it is pure imperialism. Basically what russians are trying in Ukraine. I'm still not quite sure what is the purpose, there is really not enough land or it's all just bs? I wonder if this ends…

> Basically what russians are trying in Ukraine. Not sure it's the same thing. Russians want political and territorial control in Ukraine, not expelling Ukrainians to resettle the place with "ethnic Russians". Israel wants to conquer the whole of Palestine (West Bank, Gaza, Jerusalem) to replace the native population with its own. There is no possible equal integration of Palestinians or their descendants into a Jewi…

> not expelling Ukrainians to resettle the place with "ethnic Russians"

That is literally what they are doing in occupied territories

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by gershy »

t0mpr1c3 wrote: post #299
andriy_koval wrote: post #183

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We won't know without analyzing protocols how Israel picks targets. Also, harming civilians is the norm in modern world. Russia absolutely deliberately is targeting critical civilian infra in Ukraine (e.g. grid during cold winter).

If the effect of your actions is a war crime, you are a war criminal. If the Russians also do it, that is additional evidence of war crimes.

But of course you're not arguing that collateral damage proves war crime?

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by [deleted] »

Computer0 wrote: post #319
andriy_koval wrote: post #301

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> If the effect of your actions is a war crime, you are a war criminal. war crimes usually defined by intent: were civilians targeted intentionally.

Were civilians targeted intentionally on 9/11? Or was it just a targeted assassination strike on some bankers? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_July_2024_al-Mawasi_attack ) If I am attacked and legally have the right to self defense, but kill the neighbors "in the process of" defending myself because I fired 300 rounds at the attacker. Is that okay? I didn't do it "intentionally". But it is convenient that I hate t…

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Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by gershy »

hsuduebc2 wrote: post #28
petesergeant wrote: post #9

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I mean, if you are sure there are children and there is a quite a lot of children there, it's deliberate. It's actually one of the places in the Middle East with a higher birth rate than Israel itself, and a very high population density. If you are shooting into the crowd which includes children, you are shooting at children even when you are not pointing at them precisely.

Individual events need to be considered on a case-by-case basis, but surely you would agree that if your combat enemy is hiding amidst children it is they who have deliberately chosen for those children to become collateral damage?

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by gershy »

kykeonaut wrote: post #324
Zvez wrote: post #314

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> Yes, horrible, but at what point does the consensus become that October 7 starts to look like a small event in light of the death toll on the other side At the point when other side (free palestine and alike) start acknowledging it. Two wrongs don't make something right. Start with teaching Palestine supporters that hamas is not the answer. And maybe, maybe after that people start seeing Palestine people as victims…

In what world is 20,179 dead children the lesser of two evils?

The pro-israel argument is that hamas are almost entirely to blame for those numbers (as they use civilian infrastructure for war purposes)

Re: Israel targeted Gaza children resulting in genocide, UN inquiry says

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Post by SanjayMehta »

KingMob wrote: post #217
SanjayMehta wrote: post #198

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By defunding the UN until it falls apart and is rebuilt from scratch. Right now it's a dysfunctional joke. As are most "international" bodies created just after 1945. "Rules based order" when it suits you, "preemptive strikes" when it doesn't.

This is ironic, because the UN itself was already a rebuilt version of the League of Nations.

It's not ironic, it's just a fact.

The only thing which counts is raw power and the means to deliver it. The US just got a lesson in its limits from the Iranian regime.

Countries with natural resources need their own defense against thieves like the US and its vassals. Libya, Iraq, Syria. Oil and no nukes. Fat use the UN was for them.

(Forget about the UN. Take a home owners' association. In due course a clique will take it over and corrupt it.)

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Post by MASNeo »

Cynddl wrote: post #14
MASNeo wrote: post #8

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If you look at the bottom of the page, you’ll find guidelines that mention which content is welcomed: “Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.” That said, I find this particularly of interest here given the growing attention to the use of algorithms…

Very well, you are of cause correct and come to think of it that guideline makes total sense, there is more to hacking than technology. Hence my comment was unfortunate a bit misguided.
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