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VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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they can forbid mullvad.

How would that work? The UK can presumably ban Mullvad from operating in the UK, but I don't see how it can prevent outbound connections to Mullvad servers elsewhere, short of implementing a nation-wide firewall like China or Iran. And even in those places the firewall is pourous and routinely circumvented.

mullvad client relies on known servers, you could ban their access at the IP level from UK ISP. nothing complicated really

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There is very little doubt that we need to find a way to update our relationship with social media. The evidence of their harm in current form is overwhelming. However, using this reason to induce censorship rules, word by word matching Russia/China playbook is making the goal less achievable if anything.

Require all feeds to be chronological.

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On the mobile apps can check your SIMs country code. This is how bluesky knows the UK users (they used to use IP, not anymore)

Come iToddlers and the Samstung, Pixel [soon Motorola] with GrapheneOS is the way!

I'm writing it from GoS device, CC can be accessed by the apps.

There's plenty on the roadmap from what I see, although this phone is infinitely better than with the standard OS.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Labour-in-the-name-only is a far right at the moment (left to Tories and Farage on social issues, right of Tories and almost at Farage on domestic and international affairs). Once Starmer hijacked the party based on the scammy set of pledges[1], he promptly started removing of anyone remotely "leftist", then started competing with Tories in cruelty and with Reform at hostility. Yeah, that labour party. [1] https://ww…

how would EU nationals have "full voting rights"? Anyway 4/10 explicitly mention going against the Tory party, which is also a classic mistake of weakness.

I don't understand your first question?

Anyway, on EU nationals he went full rabid xenophobe so that's a moot point anyway.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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Honestly, the UK already shot itself in the foot. Now they're shooting their other foot. And they keep voting for the Labor party... And yet, govt will find it's impossible to regulate the creativity of software engineers.

> And they keep voting for the Labor party. The alternatives are even more power-mad, fundamentally illiberal parties (Reform, Conservatives), equally pearl-clutching ones that will likely continue on the same road as Labour (greens) and unreliable figures that will flip-flop as soon as they are in power (libdems). What's left? Count Binface, I guess.

Did you know Count Binface promises to build at least one affordable house?

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Also the UK arrests people for online posts more than Russia, China or Belarus. It seems clear the gov wants to control all forms of speech and if they could control speech at home they would too further, I have little doubt if they could control your thoughts they would too. They’d be more than delighted to have people wear shock collars that shock wearers as they stray from received though patterns.

> the UK arrests people for online posts more than Russia, China or Belarus Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. You’ve made an unsubstantiated assertion. I won’t hold my breath waiting for any references to support your ridiculous claim.

Here you go: https://pa.media/blogs/fact-check/fact-check-international-d...

Now, there is one big issue for a couple of countries and that's that Russia and China probably don't report on the same level as the UK and Germany though for the UK, not all jurisdictions returned an answer, so the stats are likely higher for the UK. Then again in Russia, you can comment all you want if you avoid the one subject, well, maybe two subjects.

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Sure! With my kids it's meant not buying them internet-enabled devices (or disabling the internet access, eg smart TVs), only having 1 family computer in a shared space, and managing my own local network. There also aren't screens in the house through the week. On the flip side, I let them read whatever they want, including things that are upsetting or that other parents would say aren't appropriate, and I talk to th…

“But I don’t want to be a responsible parent, I want to destroy the unrestricted internet.”

Just like we destroyed unrestricted tobacco stores

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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> . I haven't yet seen a proposal that doesn't entail someone - government or private enterprise - getting access to identifiable information California's Digital Age Assurance Act

That isn’t age verification. It’s an api for reporting unverified age data. It’s basically parental controls standardized.

Yes. And that's the proposal that doesn't give anyone access to identifiable information. Well, in California it's not a proposal, it's the law.

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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But that's the point, circumvent democracy, to set the stage for techno-fascism. The citizen has no rights which the state is bound to respect.

By all means. For example the vast majority of the UK residents is against the ongoing support and complicity of the UK in the genocide of Palestinians, to which the government orchestrated the whole operation to turn the protest into act of terrorism (!). Etc.

Got any numbers/sources for that specific claim?

Re: VPN ban update for UK households as government looks at 'age-gate'

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They know they'll find workarounds, they'll just arrest whoever is involved in the workarounds. Law isn't a computer firewall, it's a loaded weapon.

The beauty of VPNs is that you do not need to have a presence in the UK to make or sell one. And there's a huge amount of money in it. The law is very bad at dealing with such realities, see also piracy and drugs. The last time I checked TPB is still accessible in the UK with only DoH.

So they'll just arrest you if you're caught importing VPN paraphernalia (whatever that means), using a VPN, being a payment processor and allowing money to be spent on a VPN, and so on. Just like they do with drugs. Got Wireguard on your computer? Off to jail with you.
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