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32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Yesterday I did a price check on the PC I built two years ago. It went from $2300 to $3650. The bulk of that increase was that the ram went from $210 to $940. Its now more expensive than when DDR5 was new.

The value of my desktop pc has almost doubled, my ps5 is worth ~ $150 more than I bought it years ago. It's gotten to the point where nvidia doesn't even bother to report their gaming revenue anymore. It's a clear sign that we're back to the bad old days of pc gaming being a 'prosumer' hobby, but don't worry I'm sure nvidia and their ilk are salivating at the idea of making pc gaming into a streaming stadia like solu…

> pc gaming being a 'prosumer' hobby,

As much as I hate to say it, the move at this point is GeForce Now, at least for the time being... I just subscribed to the 200 USD/year Ultimate plan with a free 007 game. My ping to the datacenter is a mere 5ms, with 5080, RTX, 4k@60Hz (which my projector can drive) I am getting way more performance and similar latency than I would if I were using my own, semi-affordable rig or even a PS5. It's mind-blowing, really, and I recommend anyone to at least give it a try.

If I take out the cost of that 007 game, that plan i 140 USD a year. If you consider the cost of the electricity, it alone would likely cover it. In the past one would typically include hardware depreciation cost in such calculations to drive the point home...but the 3-4k USD I am not spending spending on a similar rig alone can generate me some 100-150 USD in bank over a year – not to mention the inflation! So, all in all, it's basically free, comparatively speaking.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Take memory in house Apple (the talent is already there) its time again to kick another hardware supplier out and move on ala Intel, Nvidia, AMD, IBM, and Qualcomm outgoing in 2027-2028 if you want to continue to built devices and actually sell something to the public.

They would need their own FAB. Apple just designs, it doesn't really make anything, they sell devices where all the parts are manufactured by others.

Perfect opportunity for another joint partnership between TSMC and Apple in America, also a perfect opportunity for Intel unless they want to continue to make excuses.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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> I know it's an unpopular opinion on Hacker News but I think most people are overstating the damage to the economy. There are two issues... one being that an economy needs people to buy things to work, and people only can buy things if they have money, and people only have money when they have work - but everyone is laying off people left and right due to "AI". The other issue is that there's trillions of dollars fl…

We'll be out of work whilst bailing out these companies with printed money and another round of inflation. The middle class will cease to exist. But hey the stock market will show higher numbers so its all good.

RAM price and electricity price increases are already inflation.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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I'm just trying to imagine what I would tell a younger cousin who was still in highschool. I'm not sure I could recommend they get into pc gaming the way things are now, and that makes me sad.

I would say there's a ton of great games made >= 5 years ago, almost all still available, and cheap :)

The games from 15-25 years ago are also great, especially the ones still available those are the good games.

CS 1.5, OpenTTD, AoE2, the likes..

Fancier graphics doesn't make games better. Gameplay, stories and jokes do.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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Lord help you if you build an HEDT with a boatload of “tuner” memory to get a meaningful boost on actual productivity where memory latency and secondary/tertiary timings matter.

I built in February 2025, and my two 48GB DIMMs were $440. Last month I checked and they were $1800 if you could even find them still in stock.

For my workloads it was like getting 2 - 2.5 more CPU cores worth of performance, so it was worth it, since the CPU was already as beefy as it could be. It was a reasonable premium then. Today? I’m not sure the math would still math.

Re: 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building

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A fab for high end memory costs $20B and 5 years to build. It will happen, but yeah it takes time and money

$20B is like pocket money at the scale the whole industry is moving.

Yes but you can't get away from a 5 year timeline, and then you have to project how many other fabs will be opening
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