Same. I've been a programmer for over 30 years. I'll be a programmer for another 30 years, sans the LLMs. There's nothing about the technology which appeals to me in the slightest.
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#332Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ente photos is one thing and there are others. You can accomplish most of that by installing Syncthing. But the objection is that you’re not really building anything new even if you think it’s a new idea. By your definition you’re building for yourself and not sharing…so what good are your little projects. Reading your original list it just seems like you want to build and run software without having to do any resear…
> But the objection is that you’re not really building anything new even if you think it’s a new idea. By your definition you’re building for yourself and not sharing…so what good are your little projects. What an incredibly blinkered view. You think there's no value at all in making software unless your program solves a truly novel problem, and does so for millions of users? There's so much joy that can be found in…
No you would hesitate because you yourself said you dont have the time. So why would you still develop it if you dont have the time to maintain or develop a project like that. You’re the one being sad and limiting unless you find a reason not to be. Sorry you had to rely on Llms to get a decent photo setup running but you also DIDNT have to reinvent the wheel to accomplish that. Waste all the time in the world that you want building single use stuff with LLMs but dont walk around like it wasn’t possible before because it required dev time then turn around and tell us you have plenty of time to screw around with an LLM which is proven to not give time savings. Im glad you found out about code generators to start projects though.
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Really? How do you learn how to code with out communicating with another human? Which man pages in a general Linux install will teach you all you need to know? Without communication you get no books, no StackOverflow, no-LLMs even. You were allowed to do it alone but we can't pretend humans communicating isn't how most of the available knowledge for your perusal came to be.
Overly generalizing the notion of "communication" makes this whole exchange useless, pure noise. A LLM wouldn't have made that mistake.
What? No one over generalized communication you just got caught expressing something blatantly untrue.
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>Don't be pathetic.
Don't break HN rules insulting people. I'm not your dad to talk to me like that.
>This is not true.
Why isn't it true?
>Nothing to do with MRIs or Apollo missions.
How is developing MRI machines and going to the moon not the utmost examples of peak human intelligence, achievements and meritocracy? If that isn't, what is?
Re: Leave Me Behind
#335Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But the objection is that you’re not really building anything new even if you think it’s a new idea. By your definition you’re building for yourself and not sharing…so what good are your little projects. What an incredibly blinkered view. You think there's no value at all in making software unless your program solves a truly novel problem, and does so for millions of users? There's so much joy that can be found in…
No you would hesitate because you yourself said you dont have the time. So why would you still develop it if you dont have the time to maintain or develop a project like that. You’re the one being sad and limiting unless you find a reason not to be. Sorry you had to rely on Llms to get a decent photo setup running but you also DIDNT have to reinvent the wheel to accomplish that. Waste all the time in the world that y…
You seem mad at me for making fun projects with LLMs. Of course it was possible to do fun stuff before LLMs. Been there, done that! It’s just even easier now that I can rent an llm to do all the boring bits. How sick is that!
Does that make you mad? Why does other people enjoying themselves with LLMs make you mad?
Re: Leave Me Behind
#336Earlier quoted context omitted.
No you would hesitate because you yourself said you dont have the time. So why would you still develop it if you dont have the time to maintain or develop a project like that. You’re the one being sad and limiting unless you find a reason not to be. Sorry you had to rely on Llms to get a decent photo setup running but you also DIDNT have to reinvent the wheel to accomplish that. Waste all the time in the world that y…
You seem mad at me for making fun projects with LLMs. Of course it was possible to do fun stuff before LLMs. Been there, done that! It’s just even easier now that I can rent an llm to do all the boring bits. How sick is that! Does that make you mad? Why does other people enjoying themselves with LLMs make you mad?
No it doesnt make me mad, I’m just trying to point out to you why people object to your comment. As is the topic of this thread chain.
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> > I've been programming since I was 13 > Congrats, you're in a small minority of people. Why did you respond to this? I fail to see how it relates to your point whatsoever.
Why did he mention it? How does it relate to the topic? Why do you think people are not allowed to reply to it?
> Why did he mention it?
Because it's this thing us humans call context. Or background. There are a number of terms for it. I was providing that so the rest of my post would make a bit more sense.
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#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
I support this take especially since you added the "I don't care if nobody else uses what I make", but you should at least acknowledge what you're talking about is pretty unrelated to the article, as the author's entire context seems to be making something for other people to use and building it together with other people. Since you said you want to make those things that you list, I assume none of these things have…
> I would encourage you to consider how excited you will be to constantly maintain those things you build. Why should I consider that? Its funny how the default with programming is that the piece of software exists forever. I've been learning to play the piano lately. The default with piano is that every piece is ephemeral. If I don't go out of my way to record something I play, after the notes have run out, the piec…
>Why would I consider [maintainence]...Its funny how the default with programming is that the piece of software exists forever.
By all means don't consider it if you don't plan on using them for a considerable amount of time, but there's a lot of of distance between a decent amount of time and "forever". You listed a mini OS and a UI toolkit among your projects, I hope you can forgive me for assuming you were planning to use those things to build more things, which would in turn often entail improving and maintaining these building blocks while they are actively used.
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#339Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I would encourage you to consider how excited you will be to constantly maintain those things you build. Why should I consider that? Its funny how the default with programming is that the piece of software exists forever. I've been learning to play the piano lately. The default with piano is that every piece is ephemeral. If I don't go out of my way to record something I play, after the notes have run out, the piec…
>Why would I consider [maintainence]...Its funny how the default with programming is that the piece of software exists forever. By all means don't consider it if you don't plan on using them for a considerable amount of time, but there's a lot of of distance between a decent amount of time and "forever". You listed a mini OS and a UI toolkit among your projects, I hope you can forgive me for assuming you were plannin…
Ah fair. When you say “maintenance”, my mind goes to handling pull requests and keeping on top of filed issues on GitHub. If the software has an audience of 1, a lot of that work goes away.
Adding the features I have a need for over time is the fun part as far as I’m concerned.
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#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
You seem mad at me for making fun projects with LLMs. Of course it was possible to do fun stuff before LLMs. Been there, done that! It’s just even easier now that I can rent an llm to do all the boring bits. How sick is that! Does that make you mad? Why does other people enjoying themselves with LLMs make you mad?
No it doesnt make me mad, I’m just trying to point out to you why people object to your comment. As is the topic of this thread chain.
Liar. Your comment above is spiteful and demeaning. I suggest taking a moment to think about where that energy is coming from. It’s not coming from me.